Re: Emacs Ada mode vs Ada 2012 syntax

["Markus Schöpflin" <no.spam@spam.spam>]

Am 10.10.2012 08:19, schrieb Stephen Leake:
> Markus Schöpflin <no.spam@spam.spam> writes:
>
>>>> BTW, did you ever consider registering the mailing list with
>>>> gmane.org?
>>>
>>> Never heard of such a thing. What is the cost to me of doing that, and
>>> where would I find out more about it?
>>
>> Gmane is a mail-to-news-and-back gateway which also does archiving of the mails.
>>
>> AFAICT there is no cost involved,
>
> The primary cost appears to be yet more exposure to spam. And I didn't
> see an "unsubscribe" option, but I'll assume there is one.

Most of the ML I'm following via Gmane are nearly spam free. I don't know 
whether this is due to Gmane or the list spam filters, though. But they do 
have address scrambling and their own anti-spam measures. All in all it seems 
to work pretty well.

The FAQ (http://gmane.org/faq.php) states that you just need to drop a mail to 
the admin if you want your list removed.

>> have a look at http://gmane.org/about.php for more information. You
>> can subscribe your list via http://gmane.org/subscribe.php
>
> Done.

Cool, thanks.

>>>> I find it much more convenient to follow a mailing list via NNTP.
>>>
>>> Interesting. What newsreader and mailreader are you using? I use Emacs
>>> Gnus, and it's actually hard to tell the difference between newsgroups
>>> and mailing lists (except that my commercial news server is less
>>> reliable than my commercial mail server).
>>
>> For mail I have no choice but to use Outlook,
>
> My sympathies. Although I am truly puzzled by the "no choice" part -
> what's stopping you from getting your own Internet connection, and
> running your own software?

I do have my own Internet connection at home, but not everywhere else.

>> for NNTP reading I'm using Thunderbird. This explains my motivation to
>> use news groups instead of mail pretty well, I think. :-)
>
> So it's the client user interface you like, not necessarily the
> underlying network communication protocol.
>
> Use Gnus, you'll be much happier. The user interface is nicely
> orthogonal to the network protocol, as it should be.

It's not only the client interface. It's also the ability to point my NNTP 
reader to the server, subscribe to some group, and immediately be able to 
browse and search all past mails in the group. (Gmane does not expire any 
articles.) I can even follow a group without being subscribed. E.g. I'm a 
lurker on gcc bugs and gcc patches (actually I have a virtual subfolder for 
gcc bugs which just shows me the Ada related stuff, and the same for gcc 
patches) but I'm not subscribed to that list.

All in all I find a NNTP news group much more convenient to use than a mailing 
list, but that may just be me.

Markus