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From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT GPL 2005: Too clever by half?
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:25:35 GMT
Date: 2005-09-24T21:25:35+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jvjZe.3456$vw6.165@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2r7bei9hm.fsf@grendel.local>

Simon Wright wrote:
> 
> 
> But the only restriction is that if you compile with the GPL compiler
> and release *that* binary you are affected; if you recompile with any
> other GNAT you are not.

Fair enough, but will there be a GMGPL version of Ada05? One that will 
install-and-go rather than one my customers will have to build from 
sources? I can keep using Gnat 3.15p forever (as can my customers) but 
will that line of compilers ever result in an Ada05?

I understand that the Ada code *could* be compiled with a different 
compiler but a) Ada is not as portable as it wishes it were and b) going 
into the project, I've got to presume I won't have another compiler. (If 
I had another one, I'd probably use that one if this is the ultimate 
destination.)

I'm not going to say "ACT - You owe me a no cost binary release of all 
your compilers..." I hope I'm being really clear on that. I'm merely 
pointing out two issues I see: 1) Making a public Ada compiler release 
that creates images that may not be released except under the GPL should 
be very visibly noted lest the uninformed start making assumptions about 
what they can legally do or not. (especially since you can do that with 
gcc and other non-Ada compilers rather readily) 2) Lack of a no-or-low 
cost Ada compiler for Ada05 (without restrictions) could hurt adoption 
of Ada.

ACT can do as they want with all my blessings behind them and I hope 
they make lots of money and stay in business a long time. I'd also thank 
them for being wonderful guys and making public releases of Gnat in the 
past with no restrictions on what I can do with my own code. I hope that 
with Ada05, we get something similar lest it discourage Ada usage.


MDC


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-24 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-21 18:57 GNAT GPL 2005: Too clever by half? Marc A. Criley
2005-09-21 19:13 ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-21 20:17   ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-23 21:31   ` Chad  R. Meiners
2005-09-23 21:44     ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-24 21:49       ` Chad  R. Meiners
2005-09-24 22:21         ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-24 22:50           ` Chad  R. Meiners
2005-09-25 15:12             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-25 16:26               ` Chad  R. Meiners
2005-09-25 18:42                 ` rleif
2005-09-25 18:42                 ` rleif
2005-09-26 18:28         ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-26 18:46           ` tmoran
2005-09-26 19:06             ` Hyman Rosen
2005-09-23 23:26     ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-24 22:17       ` Chad  R. Meiners
2005-09-24  6:30     ` Brian May
2005-09-24 13:41       ` Marin David Condic
2005-09-24 14:41         ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-24 15:10           ` Marin David Condic
2005-09-24 15:53             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-24 22:40               ` Chad  R. Meiners
2005-09-25 15:15                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-24 18:52             ` Simon Wright
2005-09-24 21:25               ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2005-09-24 15:32         ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-24 19:01           ` Simon Wright
2005-09-24 20:51             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-27 10:04               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2005-09-28 21:17                 ` Simon Wright
2005-09-29  9:12                   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2005-09-24 21:35       ` Chad  R. Meiners
2005-09-23 23:30   ` Michael Bode
2005-09-23 23:42     ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-24  1:22       ` Michael Bode
2005-09-24 11:52         ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-21 20:01 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-09-21 20:20 ` Keith Thompson
2005-09-22  6:24 ` Brian May
2005-09-22  7:30   ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-22 13:35   ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-22 12:10 ` Marin David Condic
2005-09-22 12:29   ` Preben Randhol
2005-09-22 13:46     ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-23 13:09       ` Marin David Condic
2005-09-23 13:03     ` Marin David Condic
2005-09-23 16:29       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-23 18:08         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-09-23 23:18           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-09-24 11:40             ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-24 14:10               ` Marin David Condic
2005-09-24 18:44               ` Robert A. Matthews
2005-09-24 14:02           ` Marin David Condic
2005-09-22 13:42   ` Marc A. Criley
2005-09-23 13:12     ` Marin David Condic
2005-09-24  8:10 ` Frank
2005-09-24 10:53   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-24 11:59   ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-09-25  8:42   ` Martin Krischik
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