From: Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@altum.de>
Subject: General purpose build tools (was: Re: how to tell gnatmake to send executables to a different directory when compiling multi source?)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:57:12 +0200
Date: 2012-07-30T07:57:12+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jv57np$lin$1@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jv376e$sla$1@speranza.aioe.org
Nasser M. Abbasi wrote:
> Yes, I understand. And when I build a Java application, the Java
> programmers tell me to go use Ant build scripts as it is the best thing
> also for building Java applications.
Yes, those poor guys really think it is. To me, it's the worst build tool
I've ever seen.
> Make is not specialized to one task, but can do multiple tasks. It
> might not be the best for one specific task, but it is the best
> general tool for many many different things.
No, it's not (You're talking about GNU make, right?). Today, there are some
far better general build tools out there, which make GNU make look more like
a toy than a serious tool. Some of it's most anoying weaknesses are:
- Uses file timestamps instead of checksums (leads to unneeded recompilation
and relinking in case of a simple comment ore white space change).
- No builtin build cache (so there's no reuse of build results).
- Doesn't detect changes in the commands it executes (so you are always
forced to do a "make clean; make", especially when working in a team).
Take a look at omake[1], makepp[2] or scons[3] if you want a really good
general purpose build tool.
Bye...
Dirk
[1]: http://omake.metaprl.org/index.html
[2]: http://makepp.sourceforge.net/
[3]: http://www.scons.org/
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2012-07-29 9:31 how to tell gnatmake to send executables to a different directory when compiling multi source? Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-29 10:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-29 11:35 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-29 12:29 ` Patrick
2012-07-29 13:02 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-29 13:49 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-29 14:09 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-29 15:35 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-29 15:42 ` Patrick
2012-07-29 16:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-29 16:46 ` Patrick
2012-07-29 17:35 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-29 19:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-29 22:22 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-29 19:46 ` Robert A Duff
2012-07-30 0:20 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-30 3:01 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-30 4:48 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-30 21:05 ` Robert A Duff
2012-07-30 5:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-30 11:16 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-30 12:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-30 12:59 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-30 14:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-30 13:03 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-30 14:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-30 19:40 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-08-01 7:32 ` Miles Bader
2012-08-01 9:37 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-08-02 5:01 ` Miles Bader
2012-08-01 15:15 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-08-02 15:08 ` Robert A Duff
2012-08-02 16:37 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-07-30 19:50 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-30 3:21 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-30 8:19 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-30 6:12 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2012-07-30 6:40 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-30 10:31 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-30 11:05 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-30 11:33 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-30 12:16 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-30 12:48 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-30 13:09 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-30 6:06 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2012-07-29 12:31 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-29 13:46 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-29 14:15 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-29 13:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-29 14:16 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-29 14:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-30 5:57 ` Dirk Heinrichs [this message]
2012-07-30 10:50 ` General purpose build tools (was: Re: how to tell gnatmake to send executables to a different directory when compiling multi source?) Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-30 11:10 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-30 12:39 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-08-30 10:49 ` General purpose build tools Stephen Leake
2012-07-29 18:33 ` how to tell gnatmake to send executables to a different directory when compiling multi source? björn lundin
2012-07-29 19:06 ` onox
2012-07-31 11:12 ` Patrick
2012-07-31 11:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-31 11:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-31 11:34 ` Patrick
2012-07-31 12:33 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-07-31 15:14 ` Patrick
2012-07-31 16:04 ` Ludovic Brenta
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