Re: C++11 and Ada 2012 - renaissance of native languages?

["Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org>]

On 6/23/2012 7:24 AM, Maciej Sobczak wrote:
> Interesting article with some thoughtful observations:
>
> http://electronicdesign.com/article/embedded/c11-ada-2012-renaissance-native-languages-74107
>
> Do you also have an impression that the market got saturated with "managed" languages
>and it might be a good moment to renew the interest in native solutions?
>

I've seen this talk for sometime now. I think there is some truth
to it. I think it is reflection of so much bloated software out there.
It seems the faster computers get, the slower software gets.

I tried many of the new Javascripts/HTML5 demos, and they seem to
run slower than the original Java applets in 1996.

Twitter has stopped using Javascript in the browser, moved things
back to the server-side
http://engineering.twitter.com/2012/05/improving-performance-on-twittercom.html

"To improve the twitter.com experience for everyone, we've
been working to take back control of our front-end performance
by moving the rendering to the server."

Oracle is getting ready now to make it is possible to build
JavaFX and Java apps as 'native' (should be a major move
for Java if this works out well)

https://blogs.oracle.com/talkingjavadeployment/entry/native_packaging_for_javafx

"JavaFX 2.2 adds new packaging option for JavaFX applications,
allowing you to package your application as a "native bundle"."

google has native client: (not sure though if this is
will be a success)

"Native Client is an open-source technology that
allows you to build web applications that seamlessly
execute native compiled code inside the browser"

http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/

and more.

Native compiled languages will always be more lean and faster
than 'managed' languages. I'd rather download an
application and run it on my PC than run it inside the browser.

I think the Java move above with native bundling is
interesting. Keep an eye on it. One problem with Java has
always been deployment and delivery of Java application
to the end user. too messy. This new technology seems to be
direct way to finally solve this problem.

--Nasser