From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Practicalities of Ada for app development
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:39:30 -0500
Date: 2012-06-21T12:39:30-05:00 [thread overview]
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"Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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>Le Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:29:47 +0200, Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com> a
>�crit:
>> IIRC, some people have proposed adding unsigned integer types to the
>> language; they've argued that modular types aren't good enough for some
>> purposes. But the idea was turned down.
>
>Why?
Why was it turned down? To much complication for to little gain, I think.
There is a lot of overhead to having a new kind of type in the language (not
only the type declaration, but also with generic formals, in Text_IO, etc.).
Janus/Ada has always supported unsigned representations of "signed" integer
types (we did that in Ada 83, before there were modular types). I think most
compilers do that, in fact. But as Adam says, you can force the signed
representation in some cases, so for:
type T is range 0 .. 2**32-1;
you have to support a signed version, which is easy to get -- just use
T'Base. And for the largest integer representation supported by the compiler
(32 or 64 or whatever), that's impossible, so Janus/Ada has to reject the
above declaration. (We don't have general 64-bit integer support.)
Randy.
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2012-06-08 20:48 Practicalities of Ada for app development wrp
2012-06-08 21:35 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-09 0:40 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-06-09 6:38 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-21 17:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-21 18:16 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-06-21 19:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-06-21 20:30 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-06-21 21:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-22 4:59 ` Simon Wright
2012-06-22 5:32 ` Tero Koskinen
2012-06-22 19:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-21 21:15 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-06-22 10:43 ` Tero Koskinen
2012-06-21 21:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-21 21:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-06-22 19:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-23 6:43 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-06-09 4:30 ` BrianG
2012-06-09 7:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-13 10:20 ` quiet_lad
2012-06-09 6:55 ` gautier_niouzes
2012-06-09 7:04 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-09 9:25 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-06-09 9:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-10 3:46 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-12 20:10 ` i3text
2012-06-13 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-21 17:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-13 10:28 ` quiet_lad
2012-06-13 13:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-09 16:09 ` tmoran
2012-06-13 10:29 ` quiet_lad
2012-06-09 23:18 ` darkestkhan
2012-06-10 3:56 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-10 14:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-10 16:51 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-10 17:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-10 17:18 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-10 19:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-10 21:36 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-06-11 8:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-11 14:27 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-11 14:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-11 16:19 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-06-11 18:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-11 17:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2012-06-12 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-12 9:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-12 11:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-12 12:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-12 12:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-11 18:29 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-06-11 19:16 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-11 21:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-21 17:39 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2012-06-21 17:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-10 18:15 ` darkestkhan
2012-06-10 19:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-11 6:34 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2012-06-21 17:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-10 15:49 ` Shark8
2012-06-10 17:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-10 19:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-11 0:37 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-06-11 8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2012-06-12 7:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2012-06-13 13:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2012-06-14 7:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-14 8:39 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-14 9:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-21 17:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-11 0:00 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-06-11 3:23 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-11 21:10 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-06-11 21:55 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-06-12 8:07 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-06-12 15:28 ` Fritz Wuehler
2012-06-12 21:34 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-06-14 11:12 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-06-21 18:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-12 21:12 ` Nomen Nescio
2012-06-13 0:04 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-06-13 3:04 ` Shark8
2012-06-13 8:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2012-06-13 19:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-13 22:01 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-14 8:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2012-06-14 9:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-21 18:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-13 8:35 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-06-13 8:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-13 10:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-06-11 22:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
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