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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: basic question on Ada tasks and running on different cores
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 23:12:22 -0500
Date: 2012-05-17T23:12:22-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jp4i7c$smm$1@munin.nbi.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jp1ivb$o6m$1@adenine.netfront.net

"Jeffrey Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org> wrote in message 
news:jp1ivb$o6m$1@adenine.netfront.net...
> On 05/16/2012 05:11 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>>
>> The problem is, if you're trying to implement fine-grained parallelism, 
>> you
>> have to surround that code with some sort of scheduling mechanism, and 
>> that
>> overhead means you aren't going to get anywhere near 100% of the CPU at 
>> any
>> point.
>
> The assumption here is that there are more tasks/threads/parallel things 
> than there are processors/cores. That's generally true now, but they way 
> things are going, it may not be true in the not-too-distant future (1-atom 
> transistors could make for a lot of cores). When you have a core per task 
> you no longer need scheduling.

Scheduling includes deciding *what* to run, as well as *when* to run it. If 
there are enough cores, *when* becomes trivial, but *what* still requires 
overhead (and data communication, as Dmitry noted). There are special cases 
were *what* is pre-determined (SIMD machines), but for general workloads, 
determining what to run will still add costs.

                                           Randy.





      parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-18  4:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-06  7:38 basic question on Ada tasks and running on different cores Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-05-06  7:59 ` Gautier write-only
2012-05-06 10:02 ` Simon Wright
2012-05-06 10:31   ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-06 14:14     ` Robert A Duff
2012-05-06 16:07       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2012-05-06 19:43       ` Ludovic Brenta
     [not found]         ` <15qdq7df9cji7htp52i9d5f8sqsgmisc3b@invalid.netcom.com>
2012-05-06 21:24           ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-06 14:13 ` Robert A Duff
2012-05-07  7:36 ` anon
2012-05-08  7:08   ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-05-08  9:02     ` anon
2012-05-08  9:52       ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-05-09 12:28         ` anon
2012-05-10  2:20           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-11  2:38             ` NatarovVI
2012-05-11  8:30               ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-16 15:40                 ` NatarovVI
2012-05-16 18:03                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-05-12  0:33               ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-12 10:57                 ` Stephen Leake
2012-05-15  6:55                   ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-15 22:54                     ` Shark8
2012-05-16 15:54                 ` NatarovVI
2012-05-17  0:11                   ` Randy Brukardt
2012-05-17  1:06                     ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-05-17  6:50                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-05-18  4:12                       ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
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