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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] interesting reason why a language is considered good
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:33:35 -0500
Date: 2012-04-16T22:33:35-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jmioak$32o$1@munin.nbi.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: szik5e8e6n4m$.dgyqh41b6k6b$.dlg@40tude.net

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message 
news:szik5e8e6n4m$.dgyqh41b6k6b$.dlg@40tude.net...
...
>> I disagree strongly, likely because IDEs usually become only DEs for
>> heterogeneous sources in my real world: IDEs typically
>> lack reliable means of automatically mapping (possibly broken)
>> source to and from foreign layout, but layout becomes essential if
>> syntax is abandoned for readability. Moreover, I happen to work in
>> an environment that requires the use of editors (and terminals)
>> that happen to be available with a given foreign system. My work
>> can become rather difficult when programmers have relied on
>> "graphical" or "typographical" properties of some IDE, and not
>> plain old syntax.
>
> Statistically irrelevant. Probably there exist Ada programmers using
> typewriter without characters |, #, " (See Ada 83 RM 2.10). Don't care!

Well, I think you'll find a lot of Ada programmers that don't use an IDE at 
least part of the time. Me, for instance. (I've never found one that doesn't 
get in the way when editing -- and I built two of them during my career; I 
still use a circa 1986 MS-DOS editor for virtually all program editing.)

Assuming any particular display for a programming language is exactly wrong, 
because things change faster than the programming language could possibly 
change.

                            Randy.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-17  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-15 10:27 [OT] interesting reason why a language is considered good Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-04-15 11:57 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-04-16 10:37   ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-04-15 12:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-17  6:59   ` tonyg
2012-04-17  7:43     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-15 14:05 ` Bill Findlay
2012-04-15 14:21 ` Pascal Obry
2012-04-15 14:54   ` Simon Wright
2012-04-15 15:34     ` Pascal Obry
2012-04-17  5:42       ` Brad Moore
2012-04-17 16:11         ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17 16:33           ` Robert A Duff
2012-04-17 19:34             ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17 21:42               ` Robert A Duff
2012-04-17 22:24                 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-18  7:00                   ` stefan-lucks
2012-04-17 21:17             ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-04-15 23:53     ` Brian Drummond
2012-04-16 10:43 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2012-04-16 11:48   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-16 13:06     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-16 15:01       ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-16 15:31         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-16 17:11           ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-16 17:19             ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-16 18:00             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-16 21:48               ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-17  3:43                 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-17  4:43                   ` Bill Findlay
2012-04-17  7:46                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-17 22:32                     ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-18  7:10                       ` stefan-lucks
2012-04-18 23:48                         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-19 14:22                           ` Shark8
2012-04-17 15:48                   ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17 16:15                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-17 19:33                       ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17  7:34                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-17 16:01                   ` Simon Wright
2012-04-17 17:42                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-04-17 19:17                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-04-17  3:24           ` Randy Brukardt
2012-04-17  3:33           ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2012-04-16 19:55   ` sbelmont700
2012-04-17  0:48   ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-04-17 21:59 ` anon
2012-05-13  4:14   ` David Thompson
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