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From: jls@rutabaga.Rational.COM (Jim Showalter)
Subject: Re: Pre-condition vs. Post-condition
Date: 29 Mar 91 03:28:00 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jls.670217280@rutabaga> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2947@sparko.gwu.edu

>>That's not the issue: default initialization, particularly of private
>>types, is for the benefit of the SUPPLIER, not the client.

>Right. As long as the client program(mer) doesn't make hidden assumptions
>in the client code about what the default value is.

But a programmer who makes such assumptions is a doofus. I don't want
to remove features in the language that are useful for good programmers
just to make it harder for doofus programmers to act like doofuses: I
want fewer doofus programmers to have jobs. Just because it is possible
to write an erroneous program in Ada (and I submit that depending on
default values in private types is highly erroneous) is no reason to
damn the features that make such erroneousness possible. This is not
a language issue: it's an education issue.
--
***** DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed herein are my own, except in
      the realm of software engineering, in which case I've borrowed
      them from incredibly smart people.

  reply	other threads:[~1991-03-29  3:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1991-03-24 21:23 Pre-condition vs. Post-condition stt
1991-03-25 16:00 ` Arthur Evans
1991-03-25 17:05   ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-26  4:31     ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-26 10:21       ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1991-03-26 16:44         ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-26 22:03           ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1991-03-26 23:36             ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-28 20:43               ` Pre-condition vs. Post-condition (actually inintialization) Dana Carson
1991-03-27 21:34             ` Pre-condition vs. Post-condition Jim Showalter
1991-03-28  2:54               ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-29  3:28                 ` Jim Showalter [this message]
1991-03-27  3:12         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-27 21:32         ` Initialization Paul Stachour
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1991-03-18 15:47 Pre-condition vs. Post-condition "Norman H. Cohen"
1991-03-15  3:57 Chris M. Little
1991-03-15 19:07 ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-17 12:26   ` George C. Harrison, Norfolk State University
1991-03-18 15:04   ` Joe Hollingsworth
1991-03-18 19:51     ` Marlene M. Eckert
1991-03-19 19:07       ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-21  3:01         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-21 18:40           ` Michael Feldman
1991-03-19 20:38       ` Charles H. Sampson
1991-03-21  3:06         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19 21:07       ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19  7:38     ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-19 14:46       ` Joe Hollingsworth
1991-03-21  2:46         ` Jim Showalter
1991-03-22 15:18       ` Brad Balfour
1991-03-19 18:17   ` Mike Gilbert
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