CM Tools and Ada

CM Tools and Ada

[LISA LANE]

I am interested in knowing what Configuration Management tools 
are being used on Ada projects, particularly projects with > 20,000
LOC. There seem to be very few tools available commercially, especially
for Ultrix. Any information would be appreciated.

-Also, which compiler was used on this project? 
-Were any other development tools used on this project - build generation
 tools, etc.?
-Does this project have any special considerations - 2167A, etc.?
-Are you (or were you) satisified with your tools?

Thanks-

Lisa Lane     
lad@swlvx6.msd.ray.com

Re: CM Tools and Ada

[Jim Showalter]

>I am interested in knowing what Configuration Management tools 
>are being used on Ada projects, particularly projects with > 20,000
>LOC.

We make CM tools for Ada projects that have been used successfully
on projects even over 1MSLOC.

I can send information if you give me a snail-mail address.

>-Also, which compiler was used on this project? 

Ours--we make compilers too.

>-Were any other development tools used on this project - build generation
> tools, etc.?

The build tools are integrated with the CM tools.

>-Does this project have any special considerations - 2167A, etc.?

Most of the projects using our CM tools also use our 2167A design
and documentation tools.
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Re: CM Tools and Ada

[Sukan Makmuri]

Hi, 

I apologize if these questions has been asked too many times.

1. Has anyone compiled a list of Ada-related products (compiler, debuggers, 
   editors, reverse engineering, CM, etc.), and perhaps (objective :-)) 
   comparisons on them?

2. What is the closest product like Saber-C for Ada?

3. How do I get more information on the Ada 9X activities and publications?

4. Has anyone compiled a list of Ada conferences, and how do they compare to 
   each other in terms of attendance & attendees (programmers, vs. managers vs. 
   end-users), how much does one get out of the conferences, etc? 
   Which ones are worth going, and how do I get more info on the conferences?

5. What is your opinion in the Ada market for Unix/Ultrix vs. VMS: 
   now and 5, 10 years from now?

6. What Object Oriented Analysis (OOA) methodology do you think is the most 
   appropriate for the Ada environment? 

7. Which Object Oriented Design methodology and notation do you think is the 
   most appropriate for the Ada environment?  Is there any specific 
   customization or enhancement to the methodology that you deploy when
   implementing your system?

8. What is your major problem when designing and implementing a system in
   Ada?

9. Is there a maintained list of the "most commonly asked questions?"

Please email directly to me, unless your reply affects people on the net. 
If there's sufficient interest in the answers, I will summarize and post the 
replies and repliers.

Thanks,

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Re: CM Tools and Ada

[Sukan Makmuri]

Hi, 

I apologize if these questions has been asked too many times.

1. Has anyone compiled a list of Ada-related products (compiler, debuggers, 
   editors, reverse engineering, CM, etc.), and perhaps (objective :-)) 
   comparisons on them?

2. What is the closest product like Saber-C for Ada?

3. How do I get more information on the Ada 9X activities and publications?

4. Has anyone compiled a list of Ada conferences, and how do they compare to 
   each other in terms of attendance & attendees (programmers, vs. managers vs. 
   end-users), how much does one get out of the conferences, etc? 
   Which ones are worth going, and how do I get more info on the conferences?

5. What is your opinion in the Ada market for Unix/Ultrix vs. VMS: 
   now and 5, 10 years from now?

6. What Object Oriented Analysis (OOA) methodology do you think is the most 
   appropriate for the Ada environment? 

7. Which Object Oriented Design methodology and notation do you think is the 
   most appropriate for the Ada environment?  Is there any specific 
   customization or enhancement to the methodology that you deploy when
   implementing your system?

8. What is your major problem when designing and implementing a system in
   Ada?

9. Is there a maintained list of the "most commonly asked questions?"

Please email directly to me, unless your reply affects people on the net. 
If there's sufficient interest in the answers, I will summarize and post the 
replies and repliers.

Thanks,


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						FAX:   (415) 543-3716
Interactive Development Environment		sukan@ide.com

Re: CM tools and Ada

[ploedere]

Re: Lisa Lane (3/15) and Jim Showalter (3/17) messages

For the last two years, we have designed and implemented a Configuration
Management Assistant (CMA) under the STARS program. CMA addresses a number
of configuration management issues, particularly in the setting of software
reuse, e.g., the integration of systems from independently versioned and
administered subsystems. The main theme of CMA is to help the user decide
BEFORE building the system, whether the configuration is likely to (not)
function properly and to pin-point potential troublespots. Put in Ada terms,
CMA will for example tell which Ada libraries need to be combined to form a
complete system configuration, and which versions of these libraries fit
together.

We are most interested to hear from the general Ada user community what
their requirements are on CM in Ada projects. Particularly, we are
struggling with the issue on where the boundaries are between a tool like
CMA and source and object version control, Ada librarian functionality,
release policies and procedures, engineering change request systems, etc.
While we could incorporate all such functionality in CM, we would prefer
a less monolithic approach. Which other tools should we interface with ?

If you have feedback that you don't want to post to the general public,
or if you want to know more about CMA, please send e-mail to 
ploedere@tartan.com.

Erhard Ploedereder
Chief Scientist
Tartan, Inc.