Re: Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry?

["Pat Rogers" <progers@NOclasswideSPAM.com>]

"John Kern" <jkern3@visteon.com> wrote in message
news:3A002AFA.910DC18E@NOSPAM.visteon.com...
>
>
> James Rogers wrote:
> >
> > "E. Robert Tisdale" wrote:
> > >
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> [[snip]]
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> > This is also nonesense. It is easier to find C and C++ programmers
> > than Ada programmers. It is definitely NOT easier to train C and
> > C++ programmers than Ada programmers.
> >
> > Among other things, you must train C and C++ programmers to avoid
the
> > numerous dangerous features of the language, particularly when
> > developing
> > real-time system. You can spend less time teaching Ada, without
multiple
> > class hours spent on avoiding dangerous language features.
>
> I find it somewhat amusing that in the automotive arena, there is a
> whole industry of products available to keep the typical C
programmer
> from screwing up.  Our software process recommends, among the
typical
> things, 'Safer C' training from Les Hatton, MISRA C coding
guidelines,
> static analysis tools like QA C, OSEK compliant RTOSes for
standardized
> kernel access, and UML tools that help us draw pictures of what we
would
> have already done with Ada packages anyway.  Also, there are the
> individual compiler issues and training, and the misguided attempts
to
> achieve reuse by adding copious precompiler directives, etc.

Too, the MISRA guidelines for C actually recommend Ada (among others)
as an alternative to C.

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first woman, and Satan, the first consultant.
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