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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Derived private interface
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 16:16:27 -0500
Date: 2011-08-02T16:16:27-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <j19pfe$aj0$1@munin.nbi.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1nvqqny2226ro$.1ixvoiht8zu8l$.dlg@40tude.net

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message 
news:1nvqqny2226ro$.1ixvoiht8zu8l$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:56:17 -0500, Randy Brukardt wrote:
>
>> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
>> news:1rlxo1uthv5xt.1agapd9q0mek4$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> ...
>>> BTW, Generic_Dispatching_Constructor of Ada 2005 did not change much to
>>> Ada
>>> 95 because of tags. You still need a registering layer to maintain
>>> external name to tag mapping.
>>
>> It did eliminate one thing, the need to have a scheme to create an object 
>> of
>> each tagged type. That forced the use of either a case statement or an
>> access-to-subprogram, either of which is error-prone.
>
> I don't consider the case statement because it is just a wrong pattern.
> Regarding mappings type ID to either a constructing function or tag, they
> are equivalent. Both require the same amount of maintenance.

There are more sources of error when using access-to-subprogram; it's easy 
to forget to create a routine or use the wrong one. Neither of those are 
possible with generic dispatching constructor (or with a case statement, for 
that matter, presuming that you use Ada's completeness checks). This is a 
minor advantage, but it is real; it's the major reason that I don't even 
think about using access-to-subprogram (and have to be reminded of the 
possibility).

 >> There is no possibility of eliminating the need for some sort of 
registry --
>> although in some cases you can use the one built-into the language (the
>> External_Tag). There has to be a mapping somewhere of some sort of key to 
>> a
>> tag, since it isn't possible to export tags to the "real world".
>
> It is possible, and even required for distributed weakly coupled
> applications, but in order to do that you have to export the types
> themselves rather than their tags.

It might be possible for some non-Ada language, but it's not possible for 
Ada (and this is an Ada site and I was only talking about Ada here). There 
is no way in Ada to "export the types"; you have to export some type 
indication -- and that requires some sort of mapping of indication to type.

                             Randy.






  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-02 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-05  3:14 Derived private interface Rego, P.
2011-07-05  5:10 ` AdaMagica
2011-07-06  2:24   ` Rego, P.
2011-07-06  4:34   ` AdaMagica
2011-07-06  7:55     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-07-06  8:30       ` AdaMagica
2011-07-06 12:59         ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-07-06 13:23           ` AdaMagica
2011-07-06 19:06             ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-06 13:28           ` Simon Wright
2011-07-06 19:45           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-06 22:05             ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-07-06 23:56               ` Adam Beneschan
2011-07-07 14:09                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-07-07 15:10                   ` Adam Beneschan
2011-07-08  4:29                     ` AdaMagica
2011-07-08 19:08                       ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-08 19:12                     ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-07 15:19                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-07-07 10:37         ` Stephen Leake
2011-07-07 13:18           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-07-08 19:23             ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-08 21:41               ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-07-09  6:14                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-07-22 22:59                 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-23  7:30                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-07-23  9:29                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-07-23 10:07                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-07-26 21:04                     ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-26 23:43                       ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-07-27 23:56                         ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-28  0:18                           ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-07-28 10:06                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-07-28 23:24                           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-29  6:45                             ` Simon Wright
2011-07-30  0:04                               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-30  6:32                                 ` Simon Wright
2011-08-01  9:30                                   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-08-01 10:12                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-08-01 21:56                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2011-08-02 10:03                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-08-02 21:16                                           ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2011-08-03  9:01                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-08-03 20:16                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-08-04  8:15                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-08-09 21:10                             ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-08-09 21:35                               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-08-10  9:11                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-08-10 21:56                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2011-08-11  8:07                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-08-12  4:52                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2011-08-12  8:54                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-08-10 10:07                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-08-10 11:26                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-08-10 22:27                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2011-08-10 22:21                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2011-08-11 13:50                                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-08-12  4:43                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2011-08-12  7:00                                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-08-12 21:59                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-07-06 15:06       ` Adam Beneschan
2011-07-06 16:36       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-07-06 19:20       ` Randy Brukardt
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