From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ?
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 21:49:51 -0500
Date: 2011-06-06T21:49:51-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <isk3kj$qfs$1@munin.nbi.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87pqms8h6v.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de
"Florian Weimer" <fw@deneb.enyo.de> wrote in message
news:87pqms8h6v.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de...
>* Dmitry A. Kazakov:
>
>> On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:06:59 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
...
>>> For all its faults, there is no alternative to BSD sockets.
>>
>> So what? Ada's interface to TCP/IP stack and other network stacks need
>> not
>> to be thin. On the contrary it should be as abstract as possible in order
>> to remain independent on any OS-specific mess.
>
> Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. What would an API
> look like that is more abstract than BSD sockets? Would it
> parametrize aspects such as congestion control and packet
> fragmentation?
BSD sockets is full of bizarre operational requirements which make it quite
a bit more complex than necessary. One way to abstract it (lightly) is shown
by Tom Moran's NC.Sockets (originally part of Claw). It probably would be
better to abstract it even further (Tom wasn't trying to write a portable
abstraction of sockets, it only worked out to be most of that).
Randy.
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2011-05-24 1:22 Why no socket package in the standard ? Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 1:39 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 6:11 ` tmoran
2011-05-24 17:23 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-24 19:10 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 15:12 ` Tero Koskinen
2011-05-25 18:43 ` Tero Koskinen
2011-05-25 19:08 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 6:24 ` georg bauhaus
2011-05-24 7:07 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-24 7:19 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-05-24 7:35 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 10:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 12:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 14:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 14:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 16:07 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-24 19:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 0:53 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 0:21 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 11:25 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-05-24 16:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 19:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 0:57 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:20 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 0:32 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 7:55 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-25 8:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 8:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 7:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 19:38 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 19:54 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 20:10 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 21:57 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 22:35 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:34 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-24 23:40 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-24 23:50 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:35 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 3:07 ` Shark8
2011-05-25 4:01 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 7:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 7:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 10:46 ` Manuel Collado
2011-05-25 10:44 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-05-25 15:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 16:36 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 16:46 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 12:10 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-26 12:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 14:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 15:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 18:20 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-26 18:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 20:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 21:02 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 21:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-26 21:59 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 7:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-27 13:12 ` Simon Wright
2011-05-27 15:43 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 18:31 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-05-26 19:05 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-26 19:14 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-26 19:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 2:02 ` anon
2011-05-27 11:44 ` Stephen Leake
2011-05-26 14:50 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-05-26 15:57 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 11:46 ` Stephen Leake
2011-05-27 12:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-27 12:49 ` Make, Automake, Configure, Autocong, GPRbuild etc (was: Why no socket package in the standard ?) Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-27 13:10 ` Make, Automake, Configure, Autocong, GPRbuild etc Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-27 15:45 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 7:40 ` Why no socket package in the standard ? Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 10:48 ` Pascal Obry
2011-05-25 7:49 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-05-25 2:47 ` Shark8
2011-05-25 9:12 ` Thomas Løcke
2011-05-24 21:42 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 23:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 9:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 23:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 23:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:36 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 7:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 21:22 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-25 9:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-25 11:54 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-05-25 12:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 22:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 9:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-05-24 19:17 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 19:30 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-05-24 19:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 22:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-24 22:54 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 23:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-05-25 0:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 1:20 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 12:38 ` AdaMagica
2011-05-24 15:00 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-24 18:29 ` anon
2011-05-24 19:08 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-06-02 2:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-06-02 13:55 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-02 20:38 ` anon
2011-06-02 20:44 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-02 21:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-06-04 21:35 ` anon
2011-06-05 8:39 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-06-07 1:50 ` anon
2011-06-02 21:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-06-05 11:06 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-05 13:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-05 14:51 ` Florian Weimer
2011-06-05 15:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-06-07 2:49 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
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