Re: Air traffic control system in Java

["Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org>]

On 3/4/2011 11:15 PM, Vinzent Hoefler wrote:

>
> After all, there's GtkAda, that's probably as cross-platform as it will
> ever get and yet it doesn't convince users to use Ada.
>

Other than GPS and the work by Dmitry and few others using GTK here,
where are the Ada GUI apps written using GTK Ada?

I looked to find an Ada application, that I can download and install,
which uses GtkAda, but could not find one. (one with menus,
buttons and such).  Only handful of tiny ones:

http://libre.adacore.com/libre/tools/gtkada/

Half of the above are broken, very old, or do not work, and
just a toy ones.

So, something is wrong here in this picture. In other systems,
I can go to Google and search and find tens of thousands of
GUI apps written by other languages.

So, why isn't any one using Ada to write GUI based applications
then if the GUI is there? May be because most Ada programmers are
more interested in system, embedded applications?

When I finish this course I am taking now in 2 weeks, I will have little
more time, and will learn GTKAda to see. The problem, I still need to
do plotting, and that requires a new library, like plplot. I wish
I can find an example of someone who have used Ada and GtkAda and
plplot and integrated all in one visualization scientific app. I guess
I have to try myself one day to see if it work, may be I will
be the first who will use Ada with GTK and Plplot to make a complete
scientific Ada GUI application, and I will become very famous :)


>
> And as mentioned above. To put something like that into a language standard,
> you have to keep minimalistic (remember that the vendors need to implement
> it and cost of implementation is also an issue in terms of standardization).
> But being minimalistic also means, that nobody will use it due to lack of
> (necessary) features.
>
> IME, if a minimalistic GUI is needed, embed a webserver into your application
> and let it start up the browser. This served me well so far. Virtually everybody
> knows how to use a browser, and in the days of Web 2.0 such an approach is
> probably even "en vogue".
>
>
> Vinzent.
>

--Nasser