From: "Chuck" <chuckmacdonald@nospam.me>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with C++?
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:59:24 -0600
Date: 2011-02-17T23:59:24-06:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ijl1s4$he0$1@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: f85ba93d-38ed-47e5-bc79-37bde7818134@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com
(I am reading and responding to this thread in reverse-chronological
order, FYI.)
Hyman Rosen wrote:
> C++ is very susceptible to horrible runaway type names because
> it does have automatic instantiation of templates, and especially
> in the presence of template metaprogramming. Without automatic
> instantiation and partial specialization, Ada has rather less need
> for this. (Which does not mean C++ is bad, just different.)
>
I don't use templates because of the auto-instantiation, but I would be
remiss to say that I am 100% sure that auto-generation from templates is
not sometimes a good thing (I haven't evolved my own methods in the
proverbial "large-scale development" scene, but isn't that an exception
(NPI)?). In general, I find myself too removed from what's going on when
there is auto-generation. So, I agree with your thumbs down of that. I
think "template metaprogramming" is for those with way too much time on
their hands (or something like that). In fact, I've seen that someone
coined the phrase "stupid template tricks" already.
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2011-02-16 17:37 What's wrong with C++? KK6GM
2011-02-16 17:58 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-16 18:18 ` KK6GM
2011-02-16 20:25 ` Chris Moore
2011-02-20 4:47 ` Chuck
2011-02-20 4:45 ` Chuck
2011-02-16 19:35 ` Robert A Duff
2011-02-16 20:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-16 23:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-16 20:03 ` Fritz Wuehler
2011-02-16 20:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 17:39 ` Paul Colin Gloster
2011-03-01 15:52 ` Martin Krischik
2011-02-16 23:27 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-02-16 18:32 ` Pascal Obry
2011-02-16 19:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-16 19:36 ` KK6GM
2011-02-16 20:07 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 18:48 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-17 18:53 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-02-17 19:14 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-17 19:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 19:55 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-02-17 20:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 20:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-02-17 21:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 21:32 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-02-17 21:45 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 21:07 ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-02-17 20:32 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-17 20:37 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 22:54 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-02-17 23:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 23:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 23:17 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-02-17 23:27 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-18 6:56 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-02-18 19:58 ` Edward Fish
2011-02-18 20:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-18 20:10 ` Edward Fish
2011-02-18 20:27 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-18 22:00 ` Edward Fish
2011-02-17 19:34 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-16 20:49 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-02-16 21:12 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-16 23:07 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-02-16 23:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 20:51 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-17 20:57 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-16 23:35 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-02-17 3:35 ` Shark8
2011-02-17 20:54 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-17 22:19 ` Shark8
2011-02-17 11:04 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-02-17 11:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-17 14:30 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-02-17 16:29 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 17:32 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-02-18 6:54 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 21:04 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 7:02 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 22:50 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-02-17 23:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 23:08 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-02-19 15:24 ` Marco
2011-02-19 16:39 ` Frank J. Lhota
2011-02-19 19:51 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-02-19 22:36 ` Anonymous
2011-02-19 22:45 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-02-20 0:55 ` Nomen Nescio
2011-02-20 1:51 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-02-20 9:49 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-02-18 7:07 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 21:00 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-17 22:55 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-18 3:09 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 9:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-18 11:34 ` richard
2011-02-18 11:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-18 13:26 ` richard
2011-02-18 14:15 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-17 20:58 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 7:11 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 17:17 ` Paul Colin Gloster
2011-02-20 4:35 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 7:16 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 7:27 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 7:28 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 3:41 ` Mike Sieweke
2011-02-17 13:31 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-02-18 5:15 ` Mike Sieweke
2011-02-18 6:41 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 6:39 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 15:30 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 17:31 ` Martin
2011-02-17 19:12 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-17 18:51 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 6:45 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 6:38 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 8:31 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-02-17 9:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-02-17 13:38 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-02-17 16:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-02-17 16:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-17 17:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-17 18:09 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-02-18 5:59 ` Chuck [this message]
2011-02-17 18:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-02-18 6:23 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 17:27 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-02-17 18:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-02-18 6:15 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 13:37 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-02-20 4:33 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 19:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 9:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-02-17 19:34 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 9:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-02-17 19:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 6:20 ` Chuck
2011-02-17 19:19 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-17 20:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-17 21:08 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 0:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-02-18 6:12 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 7:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-18 6:07 ` Chuck
2011-02-18 17:38 ` Paul Colin Gloster
2011-02-17 11:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-02-17 20:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-02-20 4:41 ` Chuck
2011-02-20 10:28 ` Brian Drummond
2011-02-20 14:48 ` Britt Snodgrass
2011-10-04 20:51 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-04 21:00 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-05 1:53 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-10-05 2:13 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-05 4:48 ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-10-05 6:21 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-05 6:39 ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-10-05 5:13 ` Niklas Holsti
2011-10-05 6:33 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-05 6:45 ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-10-08 1:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-10-08 8:39 ` Niklas Holsti
2011-10-08 23:11 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-06 13:19 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-10-06 14:01 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-10-08 1:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2011-10-08 13:14 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-10-08 17:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-10-08 23:55 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-10 13:31 ` Paul Colin Gloster
2011-10-11 7:45 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-11 9:40 ` SPARK and other provers (Was: Re: What's wrong with C++?) Phil Thornley
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