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From: "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr>
Subject: Re: AWS Coding Styles (and about boring plain-linear text files in the end)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:39:11 +0100
Date: 2011-01-19T14:39:11+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ih6pia$3m1$1@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <opclukh52cb7$.20ypr8aj468$.dlg@40tude.net>

Le 19/01/2011 10:13, Dmitry A. Kazakov a �crit :
>> And you want to read
>> exactly what's written, not what your brain thinks is written!
> 
> Without brain thinking, you mean? (:-))
> 
I noticed the smiley, but kidding apart, I think it is very important to
realize that you don't read what is written, but what you think is
written. How many times do you chase bugs that eventually resolved to
modifying the wrong variable, and you read that damn assignment ten
times before realizing it was the wrong variable ?!

> BTW, the argument to exactness works rather against you. Consider how texts
> on mathematics are formatted. Formulae have always *shorter* lines than
> plain texts, to be read "exactly."
Hmmm... when you start having names that do not fit on one line, you
really have a readability problem.
> 
>> I agree that /some/limitation is necessary, but 80 is far to narrow,
>> leading to excessive folding in nested constructs.
> 
> I disagree. The text should be possible to show side-by-side, e.g. ads and
> adb files. 
I don't see why (see my other post)

> Deeply nested constructs is IMO bad style, to be factored out
> into local procedures.
> 
Of course, but if you consider named notation in subprogram calls (good
programming practice certainly), where you want all arrows aligned (good
presentation too), and a parameter is itself a function call, and you
have some explicit long names, you end up quite easily close to the
right margin.

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2011-01-17  5:07 AWS Coding Styles (and about boring plain-linear text files in the end) Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-17  5:18 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-21  4:06   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-17  6:43 ` Shark8
2011-01-17 10:22   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-17 10:23 ` pascal.obry
2011-01-17 10:49   ` Simon Wright
2011-01-17 10:54     ` pascal.obry
2011-01-18 19:07   ` Florian Weimer
2011-01-18 19:47     ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18 20:44       ` Florian Weimer
2011-01-18 21:03         ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18 22:16       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19  6:58         ` Simon Wright
2011-01-19  9:15           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 20:16             ` Simon Wright
2011-01-19 22:42               ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-01-19 22:21             ` Florian Weimer
2011-01-20  1:52             ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-18 20:23     ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-18 21:39       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-18 22:13         ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-19  0:47           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-19  1:06             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19  7:00               ` J-P. Rosen
2011-01-19  8:53                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 10:04               ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-19 11:42                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 13:17                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-19 21:56                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 23:34                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-16 18:28                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-16 20:13                       ` Shark8
2011-03-16 21:51                       ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-16 22:01                         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-03-19  1:47                           ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-16 19:59                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18 22:20       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18 22:11     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-05-25 20:43   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-17 13:47 ` Bill Findlay
2011-01-17 14:02   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-17 21:12   ` Simon Wright
2011-01-18  8:03     ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-18 20:41       ` Simon Wright
2011-01-18  0:45   ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18  1:40     ` Bill Findlay
2011-01-19 11:12       ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-18  6:07     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18  6:07     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18  8:04     ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-18  9:11       ` pascal.obry
2011-01-19 11:17         ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-19 11:53           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18  8:22     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-18  8:50     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-18 14:20       ` sjw
2011-01-18 15:41         ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18  0:58 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18  1:43   ` Bill Findlay
2011-01-18  6:10   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18  7:02   ` Pascal Obry
2011-01-18  7:14     ` Thomas Løcke
2011-01-18  7:26     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18 12:42     ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-01-18 21:09       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18 22:01         ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-18 22:35           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-18 23:37           ` tmoran
2011-01-20  2:14             ` Randy Brukardt
2011-01-18  8:06   ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-18  8:54     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-01-18 15:45       ` Adam Beneschan
2011-01-18 22:03         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19  7:19           ` J-P. Rosen
2011-01-19  9:07             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 13:31               ` J-P. Rosen
2011-01-20  1:53                 ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-19  9:13             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-19  9:28               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 10:04                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-19 12:16                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-24  5:13                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-24  8:29                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 13:39               ` J-P. Rosen [this message]
2011-01-19 14:20                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-19 14:52                   ` J-P. Rosen
2011-01-19 15:25                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-19 21:43                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 22:20                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-01-19 21:47                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-21 19:17                   ` Robert Matthews
2011-01-21 19:54                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-01-19 18:02             ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-01-19 11:21           ` Stephen Leake
2011-01-19 13:32             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
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