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From: Markus E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: Corrected version Re: pragma License ?
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:27:43 +0200
Date: 2007-06-22T16:27:43+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ibabusysgw.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: SvOei.109477$Sa4.14951@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net


> As for GNAT Ada. Well at the movment there are 3 version.  The top of 
> the line is the Gnat Pro, which is under the Adacore license, and it is 

You really should read up on licensing. Gnat PRO is not "under the
Adacore license", but under GPL. AFAI understand it's only that
AdaCore won't talk to you any more if -- as a supported customer --
you redistribute the version you got from them. Since paying customers
basically pay for support that would be defeating one's purpose in
"buying a license" in the first place. (Buying a license? That should
rather be "buying a support contract", probably).

As I understand it, AdaCore doesn't even _own_ large parts of the code
base (in the copy right sense). The GCC parts belong to the FSF (so
they will stay GPL) and a number of libraries as well.

(I admit I'm not sure about the licensing status of the new runtime).

> not GPL.  Then the Adacore GPL version which is at the movement 
> is under GPL 2. Unsure what Adacore is going to do about the GPL 
> version if the GPL version 3 is adopted.  We will just have to wait and 

AdaCore maintains its code in the gcc source tree. They'll have to go
with the license for gcc.

> E N O U G H   S A I D   A B O U T   T H I S ! ! !
> L E T   T H I S   D I E ! ! !

I know I shouldn't feed you, but on the other side I'm disinclined to
let the misinformation you spread stand unchallenged. We're not
talking about "opinions" here, but about facts -- which you distort in
public and then want to let them stand without response. That won't wash.

To a certain extent I think I (and hopefully others) owe it to
posteriority, not to let FUD of that size stand unmarked. The c.l.a.
archives are supposed to be a source where people expect to find
useful information. The licensing question is discussed approximately
twice every year (and you could have researched that befor posting)
and it's not simple. I'd hate the thought that anybody took your
posting(s) at plain face value.

Regards -- Markus (who is fed up with licensing questions, but still thinks that facts count).





  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-22 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-14 17:13 pragma License ? Michael Bode
2007-06-15  9:10 ` anon
2007-06-15 18:12   ` Michael Bode
2007-06-17  7:21     ` Corrected version " anon
2007-06-17 10:33       ` Michael Bode
2007-06-18  9:07         ` anon
2007-06-18  9:58           ` Dirk Heinrichs
2007-06-20 10:38             ` anon
2007-06-20 12:09               ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-20 12:28               ` Dirk Heinrichs
2007-06-20 13:40               ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-20 13:43                 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-22  6:30               ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-06-22 10:36                 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-22 10:55                   ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-22 11:16                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-06-22 14:30                   ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-22 14:31                   ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-22 11:37                 ` anon
2007-06-22 12:10                   ` Dirk Heinrichs
2007-06-22 17:48                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-22 18:05                       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-22 14:27                   ` Markus E Leypold [this message]
2007-06-22 17:58                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-22 18:00                     ` Michael Bode
2007-06-22 18:14                       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-22 18:44                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-22 19:02                         ` Michael Bode
2007-06-22 20:42                           ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-22 18:11                     ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-18 15:08           ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-06-17 10:47       ` Markus E Leypold
2007-06-18  7:33       ` Dirk Heinrichs
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