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From: "research@ijs.co.nz" <Craig Carey>
Subject: Re: Computer Language Shootout
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 23:03:50 GMT
Date: 2001-11-03T23:03:50+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <i5o8utk2a8j407r4p7rc2v28iqjdjd1opf@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3cvGlRhRXMpc@eisner.encompasserve.org


On 3 Nov 2001 08:49:27 -0600, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)
wrote:

>In article <cQSE7.11173$xS6.15277@www.newsranger.com>, Ted Dennison<dennison@telepath.com> writes:
>
>> The last time I read over that, its goals, methods, and conclusions
>> seemed so bogus that I didn't think it was worth participating. The
>> ideal language for them would be some compiled form of APL. Anything
>> that proports to compare languages in a general way and is stilted
>> towards APL isn't worth my time.
>
>Hey, at least they are at the proper end of the alphabet :-)
>
>Seriously, anything that gets the Ada name out there as being current
>is worthwhile.  If Ada comes out dead last in the terseness competition
>it will attract favorable notice from those who have ever had to read
>obfuscated code.


For the 'echo server' shootout, I coded up a solution, and Ada 95 was
going to be last since 251 lines long. This is the page on the "echo
server" shootout: the programs are expected to fork (or multitask) and
both send and receive bytes:

http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/bench/echo/


Adasockets could be replaced with the newly available GNAT Sockets
code. But that maybe would not make the code smaller.

http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/gcc/gcc/ada/g-socket.ads?rev=1.2&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

The lengthiest entry, the (forking) g++ code was about 129 lines long.

Maybe the G++ entry could produce zombies or core-dumps at run time:

   int sigchld = 0;
   void reaper (int sig) { sigchld = 1; }
 ...
      signal(SIGCHLD, reaper);
      if ((pid = fork()) == -1)
	    sysabort("server/fork");


The  Ruby solution is about 29 lines long. Ruby might even be 
initialising Winsockets (which could add maybe another 97
non-comment lines to any Ada 'echo' entry (bringing the total to
just over 300 lines).

I can e-mail out my echo server code to anybody else interested in
having Ada compete (i.e. lose) under a clean adjective-free
["stilted .. APL"] test where pairs of integers are compared.

The shootout could be altered (a committee investigates; hack his
site?), and these can be the new requirements

 * code must be fast with 0 run time error problems, when running on
    a slow CPU (this can eliminate Java easily: run time socket I/O
    errors creep in and make it maybe 5 times slower than Ada)
 * multitasking, requeue statements of each language demonstrated.
 * portability to Windows operating systems and no forking.
 * assembly inlining tests
 

I see that there is a TCP Stack coded in Java now:
 http://www.websprocket.com/








  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-03 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-20 15:56 Using "with function" Matt Raikes
2001-07-21  5:21 ` tmoran
2001-07-21 20:30 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-10-29 17:58 ` Matthew Heaney
2001-10-30 17:49   ` Mark Lundquist
2001-10-30 22:45     ` Steven Deller
2001-11-03  4:15       ` Mark Lundquist
2001-11-03  5:11         ` Computer Language Shootout Eric Merritt
2001-11-03  6:50           ` tmoran
2001-11-03  7:15             ` Al Christians
2001-11-03  8:52           ` martin.m.dowie
2001-11-03 14:04             ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-03 14:24               ` martin.m.dowie
2001-11-03 14:49               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-03 23:03                 ` research@ijs.co.nz [this message]
2001-11-04  6:39                   ` tmoran
2001-11-04 13:44                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-05  0:59                       ` Adrian Hoe
2001-11-05  8:04                       ` David Brown
2001-11-06  6:36                     ` AG
2001-11-06  8:05                       ` tmoran
2001-11-07  8:58                         ` AG
2001-11-06 12:07                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-07  6:19                       ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-04 15:59             ` Preben Randhol
2001-11-04 20:04               ` martin.m.dowie
2001-10-31  7:00   ` Using "with function" Richard Riehle
2001-10-31 15:58     ` Matthew Heaney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-11 12:05 Computer Language Shootout Craig Carey
2003-07-11 12:18 ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-11 12:50 ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-15 15:15   ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-15 23:46     ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-16  4:37       ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-16 18:01         ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-16 21:35           ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-17  9:38           ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-17 16:29             ` Wesley Groleau
2003-07-17 17:36               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-07-17 20:56                 ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-17 21:47                 ` Robert A Duff
2003-07-18 18:04                   ` Robert Spooner
2003-07-18 18:48                     ` David C. Hoos
2003-07-19  9:51                     ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-21  7:21                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-07-23 20:34                       ` Robert Spooner
2003-07-23 22:22                         ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-18 21:22                   ` Pascal Obry
2003-07-19 19:04                     ` Robert A Duff
2003-07-19 21:29                       ` Pascal Obry
2003-07-19 23:14                       ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-07-20  0:26                         ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-20  8:44                           ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-07-20 13:28                             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-20 17:10                               ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-07-20 22:43                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-07-21  8:31                                   ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-07-21 14:39                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-21 15:23                                       ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-07-21 15:46                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-21 16:09                                           ` tmoran
2003-07-21 17:52                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-21 16:14                                           ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-07-21 17:55                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-22  9:07                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-22 13:21                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-23  9:28                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-23  9:42                                                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-07-23 10:35                                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-23 22:19                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-07-21  8:53                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-07-21 11:00                       ` Jeffrey Creem
2003-07-21 13:39                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-07-17 23:32                 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-07-18  7:36                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-07-18  8:05                   ` Thomas Wolf
2003-07-18  9:11                   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-07-18 17:31                   ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-17 20:53               ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-17 23:36                 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-07-16  7:11     ` Preben Randhol
2003-07-11 21:58 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-14 18:46   ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-14 23:08   ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-16  3:20     ` Isaac Gouy
2003-07-16  4:42       ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-16 15:27         ` Isaac Gouy
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