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From: Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Concatenation and Characters
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:39:56 +0200
Date: 2002-10-23T10:39:56+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <i3ncruorrn9nb7c5ce88avqperg3ffr50c@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ap3eu7$3r2$3@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:05:27 +0000 (UTC), Georg Bauhaus
<sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> wrote:

>Dmitry A.Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>: Secondly, your example refers to program semantics, not syntax. Semantics 
>: cannot be checked or verified neither formally nor by a human being.
>
>Hmmm....  Wasn't there something in SPARK...

semantics check => halting problem

>: One of 
>: good ideas of Ada design as I see it, was to *syntactically* mark the 
>: constructs which are potentially dangerous, make them visible for both who 
>: writes and who reads the program.
>
>o.K. it is not built into the language, but a syntactically valid
>subprogram a la
>
>  procedure fill(bowl: out glass; filled: out boolean);
>
>does inform readers about a potentially unsatisfying dring?

No. [ Of course, one could write an appropriate comment, but this sort
of things can be well applied to any language even to ugly C++.]

In this case "bowl" and "filled" have different semantics. "bowl" can
be left uninitailized (I assume that "glass" isn't controlled),
"filled" shall be always set. So I wished that this difference would
be exposed through the syntax. Which way, it is another question. It
could be for example:

procedure fill(bowl: out glass := <>; filled: out boolean := True);

Here I see from the spec, that bowl could be possibly invalid.

Should I write:

procedure fill(bowl: out glass; filled: out boolean);

then the compiler would complain that this form of parameter
specification is allowed for only the types having initial values.

---
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-10-23  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-10 14:50 Concatenation and Characters Justin Birtwell
2002-10-10 14:55 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-10 15:04   ` Justin Birtwell
2002-10-10 15:22     ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-10 15:30       ` Justin Birtwell
2002-10-10 16:05         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-10 16:07         ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-10 17:45         ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-10 15:32       ` Justin Birtwell
2002-10-10 15:36         ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-10 16:44         ` Mark Biggar
2002-10-10 17:45           ` Stephen Leake
2002-10-10 21:53             ` Mark Biggar
2002-10-18 17:03           ` Programmer Dude
2002-10-18 18:13             ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-18 18:36             ` Wes Groleau
2002-10-21 15:16               ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-18 21:33             ` Mark Biggar
2002-10-20  2:01               ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-10-21 14:13                 ` Wes Groleau
2002-10-21 15:22                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-21 19:38                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-22 22:15                       ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-10-22 12:05                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-22 12:19                           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-10-22 14:43                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-23  8:39                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2002-10-23 14:39                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-24  8:18                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-21 16:50                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-10-21 15:20             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-21 17:51               ` Programmer Dude
2002-10-21 18:48                 ` Jim Rogers
2002-10-21 19:44                   ` tmoran
2002-10-21 20:42                   ` Programmer Dude
2002-10-22  1:42                     ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-22 14:37                       ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-22 18:51                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-23  7:01                         ` Pascal Obry
2002-10-22 14:45                       ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-22 18:47                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-22 21:31                         ` Robert A Duff
     [not found]                         ` <3DB59D75.20609 <wccd6q29n3l.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
2002-10-23  2:02                           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-23 13:16                             ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-23 19:11                               ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-23 15:24                             ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-23 19:24                               ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-10-24  0:33                                 ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-22  3:46                     ` Jim Rogers
2002-10-22 14:48                       ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-22 15:02                         ` Fraser Wilson
2002-10-22 15:38                           ` David C. Hoos
2002-10-22 15:44                             ` Fraser Wilson
2002-10-22 16:13                         ` Robert A Duff
2002-10-23  8:58                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-23  9:08                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-10-23  9:34                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-23 10:10                                 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-10-23 17:15                                 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-10-24  8:41                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-10-24  9:25                                   ` Fraser Wilson
2002-10-24 14:13                                     ` Matthew Heaney
     [not found]                         ` <un <wcc7kgazc20.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
2002-10-22 16:46                           ` David C. Hoos
2002-10-22  8:51                   ` Stuart Palin
2002-10-22 18:56                     ` Programmer Dude
2002-10-21 19:42                 ` Georg Bauhaus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-11  5:04 Grein, Christoph
2002-10-11 10:30 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-23  5:15 Grein, Christoph
2002-10-23 13:19 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-24  5:53 Grein, Christoph
2002-10-24 14:04 ` Matthew Heaney
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