From: anon@anon.org
Subject: Re: ADA made me hate programming
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 04:57:52 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2010-07-01T04:57:52+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <i0h78e$2un3$1@news.ett.com.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: i0g4lk$qon$1@speranza.aioe.org
In <i0g4lk$qon$1@speranza.aioe.org>, "Nasser M. Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> writes:
>On 6/29/2010 11:40 PM, anon@att.net wrote:
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>> The big conspiracy among academicians is pushing C++ and other languages,
>> were bad habits can become a cancer to the programmer/maintainers of any
>> software package.
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>I think the choice of CS teaching languages went something like this:
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>PLI/SNOBOL -- the dark ages ?
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>Fortran -- late 70's ?
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>Pascal/Ada/Module2/ 80's. The golden age (algorithms+data
>structures=programs)
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>C/lisp 80's-early 90's ?
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>C++ 90's - early 2000's ?
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>Java late 90's/middle 2000's ?
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>Python now ?
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>HTML5/JavaScript -- 2010's and for the rest of the 21 century :)
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>--Nasser
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Your Timeline is a off a bit.
Assembly -- From the Beginning .. To the Future
Not pushed! After higher-level lang came around
Cobol/Fortran/Algol/Lisp -- late 50s .. late 80s
All were replace by C/C++ in the 80/90s
Note: Ada designer have stated that
Fortran was the "successful language"
PLI -- 60s, programmers and companies rebeled, they prefer to use
the specific language such as Fortran or Cobol
instead of learning and using PLI. So, schools followed the
companies and mostly stayed away from PLI.
Pascal/Module2 -- Mid to late 70s ... mid 90s
Pascal was design to teach programming
Replace by C/C++ in 80/90s
APL/B/BCPL -- from late 50s .. late 70s
replaced with "C" aka newer version.
C/C++/D -- from 74 .. Now.
-- "D" is the newest version replaces C and C++
"C++" is wide spread in all classes. C/C++ slowly
replace all other older lang "Cobol" and "Fortran"
in clasees.
Also, due to fact that these lang are based on "APL"
it makes the set, one of the OLDEST lang around.
This 50+ year lang set should of died a few years ago.
Ada 83 .. 98 -- only taught in gov't sponsor classes. Teacher
had to be certified in Ada before 98.
After 98 -- problem is, not enough teachers that know Ada
Languages that are for net and have little to no interest to main
stream programers that want to deal with the native CPU.
Java -- 90's .. now -- Sun's internet J-Code language that
is somewhat secure and portable but
altered to much for any lasting code.
Only Web designers are into:
HTML/JavaScript/Python
These are just a passing though for the movement
and will be replace by some kind GUI web lang. All
three will be out the door by 2016.
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2010-06-30 5:23 ADA made me hate programming mahdert
2010-06-30 5:33 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-30 5:42 ` mahdert
2010-06-30 16:49 ` Warren
2010-06-30 18:12 ` George Orwell
2010-06-30 6:40 ` anon
2010-06-30 19:07 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2010-07-01 1:38 ` starwars
2010-07-01 4:57 ` anon [this message]
2010-07-01 13:22 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-07-01 14:00 ` (see below)
2010-07-01 17:11 ` anon
2010-07-01 21:16 ` Wilson
2010-07-02 7:01 ` anon
2010-07-02 15:54 ` Non scrivetemi
2010-07-02 16:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-02 16:55 ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-07-06 5:37 ` David Thompson
2010-07-01 23:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-07-02 6:07 ` anon
2010-08-20 22:44 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-07-02 10:45 ` sjw
2010-07-02 18:04 ` anon
2010-07-02 18:53 ` Simon Wright
2010-07-03 1:54 ` anon
2010-07-03 13:16 ` Marc A. Criley
2010-07-03 21:50 ` anon
2010-07-04 11:40 ` Simon Wright
2010-07-04 23:15 ` anon
2010-07-05 6:00 ` Simon Wright
2010-07-04 17:52 ` Marc A. Criley
2010-07-04 23:22 ` anon
2010-07-05 0:22 ` Marc A. Criley
2010-07-05 10:49 ` anon
2010-07-05 21:50 ` Marc A. Criley
2010-07-06 11:15 ` Stephen Leake
2010-07-06 12:25 ` Marc A. Criley
2010-07-06 19:22 ` Simon Wright
2010-07-06 20:03 ` anon
2010-07-06 19:55 ` anon
2010-07-06 22:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-07 0:10 ` Marc A. Criley
2010-07-08 0:23 ` anon
2010-07-09 0:14 ` Marc A. Criley
2010-07-03 21:43 ` Simon Wright
2010-08-21 0:33 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-21 10:05 ` Simon Wright
2010-08-20 22:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-23 15:38 ` Warren
2010-08-20 21:57 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-20 22:00 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-07-01 13:29 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-08-21 0:40 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-30 7:00 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-30 8:36 ` tonyg
2010-06-30 23:14 ` Phil Clayton
2010-07-01 12:58 ` Lucretia
2010-06-30 9:37 ` Gautier write-only
2010-06-30 17:05 ` [Ada] " Warren
2010-06-30 21:10 ` Kulin Remailer
2010-07-02 20:03 ` Warren
2010-07-06 5:37 ` David Thompson
2010-06-30 23:42 ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-07-01 14:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-01 14:27 ` (see below)
2010-07-01 15:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-01 18:54 ` (see below)
2010-07-01 22:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-01 22:11 ` (see below)
2010-07-02 8:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-02 17:52 ` Non scrivetemi
2010-07-02 19:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-05 12:40 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-07-02 14:07 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-07-01 19:34 ` Simon Wright
2010-07-02 20:30 ` Warren
2010-07-01 23:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-07-02 7:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2010-07-02 10:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2010-07-02 13:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-02 14:25 ` Peter Hermann
2010-07-02 18:51 ` anon
2010-07-02 14:26 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-07-02 18:56 ` Simon Wright
2010-08-21 0:54 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-23 15:51 ` Warren
2010-08-23 16:44 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-23 16:57 ` Warren
2010-08-23 20:25 ` Reporting bugs in GNAT (was: [Ada] made me hate programming) Ludovic Brenta
2010-08-23 21:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-23 22:02 ` Reporting bugs in GNAT Ludovic Brenta
2010-08-24 13:32 ` Reporting bugs in GNAT (was: [Ada] made me hate programming) Warren
2010-08-24 17:41 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-26 12:53 ` Warren
2010-08-26 19:01 ` Reporting bugs in GNAT Simon Wright
2010-08-26 19:53 ` Florian Weimer
2010-08-26 20:22 ` Simon Wright
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2010-06-30 10:00 ` ADA made me hate programming Pascal Obry
2010-06-30 18:54 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-06-30 19:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-01 5:15 ` Simon Wright
2010-07-01 13:11 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-07-01 18:07 ` Gautier write-only
2010-07-01 0:34 ` Kulin Remailer
2010-07-01 4:47 ` Wilson
2010-07-06 21:59 ` Pablo
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