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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Ensuring postconditions in the face of exceptions
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:23:16 -0500
Date: 2010-03-16T18:23:16-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <hnp3t6$mfc$1@munin.nbi.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wcciq8wxpkv.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com

"Robert A Duff" <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message 
news:wcciq8wxpkv.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com...
> "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> writes:
...
>> Repeat after me: "limited" is a property of a view! It's not constant for 
>> a
>> particular type! That's a common mistake that even those of us on the ARG
>> make from time-to-time.
>
> I don't understand why the definition of "by reference" is subtly
> different from the definition of "immutably limited".

Two obvious reasons: "by-reference" predates "immutably limited" by more 
than 10 years, and besides there are non-limited types where are 
"by-reference" (non-limited tagged types). The latter also means that types 
with a component of a non-limited tagged type are "by-reference" as well. 
Finally (OK, I can't count), "by-reference" breaks privacy (thus only 
dynamic rules ought to depend on it; legality rules should never depend on 
the contents of the private part), while "immutably limited" doesn't break 
privacy and thus can be used in legality rules. "Immutably limited" is a 
direct property; it doesn't depend on type of components.

The net effect is that there isn't much similarity between the two concepts, 
nor their use.

                             Randy.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-16 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-12  9:13 Ensuring postconditions in the face of exceptions Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-12  9:24 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-12  9:29 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-03-12 11:08   ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-12 14:00     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-03-13  3:15       ` Randy Brukardt
2010-03-13 15:14         ` Robert A Duff
2010-03-16  3:13           ` Randy Brukardt
2010-03-16 15:18             ` Robert A Duff
2010-03-16 19:00               ` Adam Beneschan
2010-03-16 20:04                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-03-16 23:23               ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2010-03-13 17:34         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-03-13  7:54 ` Stephen Leake
     [not found] ` <ruqub2y84rqj.179q01lxzgatj$.dlg@40tude.net>
2010-03-13 19:33   ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-03-14 14:05 ` Alex Mentis
2010-03-14 14:21   ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-14 15:12     ` Alex Mentis
2010-03-15  9:14       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-15 11:05         ` cjpsimon
2010-03-15 13:04           ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-15 14:16             ` J-P. Rosen
2010-03-15 19:14         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-03-16 19:25           ` Robert Matthews
2010-03-14 15:38     ` Robert A Duff
2010-03-15  8:54       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-15 16:44         ` Robert A Duff
2010-03-15 17:33           ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-15 18:36             ` Robert A Duff
2010-03-14 18:57     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-03-15  8:56       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-03-15 11:04 ` AdaMagica
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