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From: Leslie <jlturriff@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: Writing an Operating System in Ada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:38:35 -0600
Date: 2010-01-12T21:38:35-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <hijf5j$pql$1@news.albasani.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8e9bc311-7540-40a1-b19e-49e93648c25c@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com

Shark8 wrote:

> On Jan 12, 2:41 am, "Dmitry A. Kazakov"
> <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:13:55 -0800 (PST), Shark8 wrote:
>> > Anyway, I was wondering if anybody here would be interested
>> > in such a project.
>>
>> If that will be a really new OS (not a UNIX clone), OO,
>> portable, distributed etc, for interesting platforms like
>> this:
>>
>>
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/08/scalable_open_source_computi...
>>
>> why not?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Dmitry A. Kazakovhttp://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
> 
> You know that was a frustrating / discouraging thing to hear
> almost everybody I talked to about wanting to write an OS say
> something along the lines of "Why don't you just download the
> sourcecode for Linux?"... I'm sorry folks, but I don't want to
> be the OS equivalent of a 'script-kiddie'.
> 
> One thing I find very annoying about the Unix/Linux mentality
> is the "everything is a file" philosophy... coupled with the
> C/C++-ism of simply assuming that a file read/write went well
> and you're asking for trouble. {Yes, I know that you CAN check
> to see if writing is successful or not in C/C++, but it goes
> against most C/C++ programmer's sense of terseness/'beauty'...
> the same one that makes no check on array-bounds.} </Rant>

        If possible, also, it would be nice to get away from the "root
can do anything" paradigm, and its associated inherited
privileges (crash a root-capable process and steal its
privileges).  It would be nice to see something more like the
explicit privilege design used by CP in IBM's VM operating
systems.
        As a side note, does anyone here remember the Intel iAPX432
processor, designed to execute Ada programs (almost) directly?

Leslie



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-13  3:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-12  1:13 Writing an Operating System in Ada Shark8
2010-01-12  3:30 ` Leslie
2010-01-12  7:06   ` Shark8
2010-01-12  8:36     ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-01-12 15:14       ` jonathan
2010-01-12 16:21   ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-01-12 16:36     ` Shark8
2010-01-12 17:03       ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-01-12 19:07     ` Tero Koskinen
2010-01-12  9:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-12 17:37   ` Shark8
2010-01-12 19:56     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-12 21:21       ` Shark8
2010-01-12 22:39         ` nobody
2010-01-12 22:50           ` Shark8
2010-01-15 22:45             ` nobody
2010-01-19 21:09               ` Shark8
2010-01-12 21:52       ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-12 23:26         ` Shark8
2010-01-13  9:17         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-13 20:20           ` Shark8
2010-01-13 20:55             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-13 22:50               ` Shark8
2010-01-14  8:55                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 18:01                   ` Shark8
2010-01-14 19:04                     ` tmoran
2010-01-19 19:07                       ` Shark8
2010-01-14 19:53                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 21:07                       ` Shark8
2010-01-14 21:50                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-15  1:24                           ` Randy Brukardt
2010-01-15  8:59                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-19 18:58                   ` Shark8
2010-01-19 19:43                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14  9:40           ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-14 10:28             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 18:57               ` tmoran
2010-01-14 19:19                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 20:33                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-14 21:09                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 21:50               ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-15  8:37                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-15 21:05                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-15 21:48                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-16 21:18                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-01-16 22:15                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-18 11:23                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-18 13:50                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-18 15:21                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-18 16:41                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-18 17:17                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-18 18:08                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-19 17:41         ` Writing an Operating System in Ada - now off topic? Leslie
2010-01-13  9:09       ` Writing an Operating System in Ada Georg Bauhaus
2010-01-13  9:27         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-13  3:38     ` Leslie [this message]
2010-01-13 12:10       ` Martin
2010-01-13 18:55       ` Ad Buijsen
2010-01-14  9:12       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-01-14 10:45         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 11:31           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-01-14 13:47             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-01-14 18:57         ` tmoran
2010-01-13  4:49   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-01-13 17:29 ` Lucretia
2010-01-13 20:37   ` Shark8
2010-01-16  0:13     ` Lucretia
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