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From: hbaker@netcom.com (Henry G. Baker)
Subject: Re: Reference Counting (was Re: Searching Method for Incremental Garbage Collection)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 05:04:25 GMT
Date: 1994-12-12T05:04:25+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <hbakerD0oM3E.7s3@netcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: gmckee.1137578003A@news-2.csn.net

In article <gmckee.1137578003A@news-2.csn.net> gmckee@cloudnine.com (Gary McKee) writes:
>In Article <D0KDGE.31F@inmet.camb.inmet.com>, bobduff@dsd.camb.inmet.com
>(Bob Duff) wrote:
>>In article <hbakerD08qGF.4qM@netcom.com>,
>>Henry G. Baker <hbaker@netcom.com> wrote:
>>>I just wanted to point out again that objects whose reference counts
>>>are always one, and the programmer/compiler knows this, avoid the
>>>usual overheads of reference counting.
>>
>>But it seems to me that in a language like Ada, if a given object only
>>has one reference pointing to it, and that fact is known at compile
>>time, then you would almost always declare that object as a normal
>>stack-allocated object.  So it would not be in the heap in the first
>>place, so reference counting would never occur.
>================================================================
>One counter-example would be the situation with compilers that limit the
>size of the stack space but not the size of the heap. 
>
>I have placed large, static arrays with predefined values onto the heap in
>order to leave the stack space for subprogram usage (especially recursive
>subprograms).

Another common example is a function that returns an object of
arbitrary size.  You don't know how much space to allocate for it
on the stack, and if you simply redefine the stack frame to include
the object (which was stack-allocated by the called function), then
you may waste huge amounts of space on the stack.  So you're better
off allocating it in a heap, but remembering that you have only
one pointer to it.

Henry Baker
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     [not found] ` <TFB.94Nov21091959@burns.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
     [not found]   ` <RFB.94Nov27213114@cfdevx1.lehman.com>
     [not found]     ` <3be0mh$1p7@gamma.ois.com>
     [not found]       ` <3bfprn$okr@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
1994-11-29 21:27         ` Reference Counting (was Re: Searching Method for Incremental Garbage Collection) R. William Beckwith
1994-11-30  2:27           ` Henry G. Baker
     [not found]           ` <DAG.94Nov30090717@bellman.control.lth.se>
1994-11-30 16:39             ` David Weller
1994-11-30 17:58               ` Erik Naggum
1994-11-30 23:14                 ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-09 14:19                 ` Ada 95 is the name Tucker Taft
1994-12-09 22:33                   ` Pat Rogers
1994-12-11 18:59                     ` Jean D. Ichbiah
1994-12-11 20:05                       ` Pat Rogers
1994-12-16  1:01                         ` Bob Duff
1994-12-12 14:50                       ` Garlington KE
1994-12-13 21:48                         ` Tucker Taft
1994-12-14 12:44                         ` Gentle
1994-12-14 17:34                         ` Jean D. Ichbiah
1994-12-10 10:10                   ` Marc Wachowitz
1994-12-11 21:37                     ` Bob Duff
1994-12-02 23:41             ` Reference Counting (was Re: Searching Method for Incremental Garbage Collection) Bob Duff
1994-12-03  8:16               ` Bill Birch
1994-11-30 18:59           ` Hans Boehm
1994-12-01  3:20             ` R. William Beckwith
1994-12-01  3:51               ` R. William Beckwith
1994-12-01 13:59               ` Henry G. Baker
1994-12-02  4:26                 ` R. William Beckwith
1994-12-02 21:37               ` Hans Boehm
1994-12-03 15:17                 ` Henry G. Baker
1994-12-09 22:07                   ` Bob Duff
1994-12-11 23:59                     ` Gary McKee
1994-12-12  5:04                       ` Henry G. Baker [this message]
1994-12-12 12:46                         ` R. William Beckwith
1994-12-16 19:35                         ` Bob Duff
1994-12-17 20:36                           ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-20  5:24                           ` Henry G. Baker
1994-12-12  9:36                     ` Robb Nebbe
1994-12-13 16:12                     ` Henry G. Baker
     [not found]     ` <3be0mh$1p7@ga <3bii2g$kn2@news.parc.xerox.com>
1994-12-01  4:58       ` Kevin Warne
1994-12-02 21:58         ` Hans Boehm
     [not found] <D06r8x.JBy@inmet.camb.inmet.com>
1994-12-02 17:32 ` Henry G. Baker
1994-12-05 20:59   ` Robert Firth
1994-12-06 14:15     ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-04  1:06 ` Rick Busdiecker
1994-12-04 18:57   ` R. William Beckwith
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