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From: hbaker@netcom.com (Henry G. Baker)
Subject: Re: Reference Counting (was Re: Searching Method for Incremental Garbage Collection)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 15:17:02 GMT
Date: 1994-12-03T15:17:02+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <hbakerD08qGF.4qM@netcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3bo43b$61v@news.parc.xerox.com

In article <3bo43b$61v@news.parc.xerox.com> boehm@parc.xerox.com (Hans Boehm) writes:
>beckwb@ois.com (R. William Beckwith) writes:
>>You and Henry (et al) are the wizzards here.  Do the stack based
>>references really cause most of the incr/decr operations?

References from the registers and the stack are the most volatile, and
therefore cause the most updating of reference counts.  This is by
definition, since it is impossible to change a reference count in any
other way.

>Maintaining an explicit list of stack resident roots is
>expensive.  I would guess that most such schemes are comparable to
>reference counting.  One alternative is to conservatively
>scan the stack.

The GC for my Ada83 Lisp implementation maintains an explicit list of
stack resident roots using a 'limited private' type.  See my ftp/www
page for how to get the Ada Letters paper which describes the stack
roots scheme.

-----

I just wanted to point out again that objects whose reference counts
are always one, and the programmer/compiler knows this, avoid the
usual overheads of reference counting.  For example, one cannot have
contention on such objects, and therefore locking isn't necessary, and
one need never _check_ the count on such an object when recycling,
since one already knows that it is =1, and therefore the object can
always be recycled immediately.  Such objects are called 'linear', and
there are several papers in my ftp/www directory that discuss them.

Henry Baker
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     [not found] ` <TFB.94Nov21091959@burns.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
     [not found]   ` <RFB.94Nov27213114@cfdevx1.lehman.com>
     [not found]     ` <3be0mh$1p7@gamma.ois.com>
     [not found]       ` <3bfprn$okr@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
1994-11-29 21:27         ` Reference Counting (was Re: Searching Method for Incremental Garbage Collection) R. William Beckwith
1994-11-30  2:27           ` Henry G. Baker
1994-11-30 18:59           ` Hans Boehm
1994-12-01  3:20             ` R. William Beckwith
1994-12-01  3:51               ` R. William Beckwith
1994-12-01 13:59               ` Henry G. Baker
1994-12-02  4:26                 ` R. William Beckwith
1994-12-02 21:37               ` Hans Boehm
1994-12-03 15:17                 ` Henry G. Baker [this message]
1994-12-09 22:07                   ` Bob Duff
1994-12-11 23:59                     ` Gary McKee
1994-12-12  5:04                       ` Henry G. Baker
1994-12-12 12:46                         ` R. William Beckwith
1994-12-16 19:35                         ` Bob Duff
1994-12-17 20:36                           ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-20  5:24                           ` Henry G. Baker
1994-12-12  9:36                     ` Robb Nebbe
1994-12-13 16:12                     ` Henry G. Baker
     [not found]           ` <DAG.94Nov30090717@bellman.control.lth.se>
1994-11-30 16:39             ` David Weller
1994-11-30 17:58               ` Erik Naggum
1994-11-30 23:14                 ` Michael Feldman
1994-12-09 14:19                 ` Ada 95 is the name Tucker Taft
1994-12-09 22:33                   ` Pat Rogers
1994-12-11 18:59                     ` Jean D. Ichbiah
1994-12-11 20:05                       ` Pat Rogers
1994-12-16  1:01                         ` Bob Duff
1994-12-12 14:50                       ` Garlington KE
1994-12-13 21:48                         ` Tucker Taft
1994-12-14 12:44                         ` Gentle
1994-12-14 17:34                         ` Jean D. Ichbiah
1994-12-10 10:10                   ` Marc Wachowitz
1994-12-11 21:37                     ` Bob Duff
1994-12-02 23:41             ` Reference Counting (was Re: Searching Method for Incremental Garbage Collection) Bob Duff
1994-12-03  8:16               ` Bill Birch
     [not found]     ` <3be0mh$1p7@ga <3bii2g$kn2@news.parc.xerox.com>
1994-12-01  4:58       ` Kevin Warne
1994-12-02 21:58         ` Hans Boehm
     [not found] <D06r8x.JBy@inmet.camb.inmet.com>
1994-12-02 17:32 ` Henry G. Baker
1994-12-05 20:59   ` Robert Firth
1994-12-06 14:15     ` Robert Dewar
1994-12-04  1:06 ` Rick Busdiecker
1994-12-04 18:57   ` R. William Beckwith
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