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From: "chris.danx" <chris.danx@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Thoughts and Opinions or something like that
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:34:38 +0100
Date: 2001-04-28T22:34:38+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <hHGG6.2855$Kt2.282851@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: cPoG6.12897$482.65420@newsfeeds.bigpond.com


"Gregory Toomey" <gtoomey@usa.net> wrote in message
news:cPoG6.12897$482.65420@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> I can't see where all the 'virtual machine' stuff is going.
>

I think that's the point.

> CPU instructions are just virtual machines for the underlying microcode,
> which are a virtual machine for some underlying gate logic,
> which is a virtual machine for solid state physics,
> which is a vittual machine for quantum machanics ...
>

only if you consider physics reality, and not a model for explaining reality.
This is a distinction people often forget.  Physics is the study of natural
phenomena, by which we develop explanations for events around us according to
what we percieve.  It may explain parts of our reality but... /end of blether


> Java has a virtual machine (listed below), compliled Prolog has the Warran
> Abstract Machine, etc. The VAX (CISC) instruction set even has polynomial
> instructions.
>

VAX bit the dust a while back didn't it.  "The ultimate CISC machine!" was how i
once heard it described.  Shame...




> But I just can't see this is leading anywhere.



>
>
> gtoomey
> --------
> "brian hiles" <bsh@rainey.blueneptune.com> wrote in message
> news:teje2rsjqeak2e@corp.supernews.com...
> > In comp.lang.misc chris.danx <chris.danx@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > > Someone on these news groups suggested to someone that in order to make
> a
> > > reliable Virtual Machines, they needed the opinions of many
> programmers...
> >
> > By VM do you mean the _Java_ virtual machine, bu which many language
> > authors are writing languages to produce jvm bytecodes, or _another_
> > VM for in which case it seems you are "reinventing the wheel"?
> >
> > For both cases, the best use of one's effort is the time spent reviewing
> > the field for other programmers projects:
> >
> > http://grunge.cs.tu-berlin.de/~tolk/vmlanguages.html
> >
> > A fascinating site!
> >
> > =Brian
>
>





  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-28 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-24 17:12 Thoughts and Opinions or something like that chris.danx
2001-04-24 21:35 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-24 23:27   ` chris.danx
2001-04-25  7:40 ` Andrew Cooke
2001-04-25 10:42   ` chris.danx
2001-04-25 17:26     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-04-26 14:22     ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
     [not found]   ` <3AE69665.63E362CD@info.unicaen.fr>
2001-04-25 10:51     ` chris.danx
2001-04-25 13:51       ` Jerzy Karczmarczuk
2001-04-25 13:52         ` chris.danx
     [not found]     ` <3AE6DAB3.899FF645@andrewcooke.free-online.co.uk>
2001-04-25 14:30       ` chris.danx
     [not found]       ` <3AE7E37B.F384DCDA@info.unicaen.fr>
2001-04-26  9:02         ` Play with virtual machines (Was: Thoughts and Opinions...) chris.danx
     [not found]         ` <3AE81234.267643AC@kfunigraz.ac.at>
2001-04-26 12:57           ` chris.danx
2001-04-27  2:14             ` Larry Elmore
2001-04-27  3:27               ` Goldhammer
2001-05-03 17:00                 ` singlespeeder
2001-05-03 17:03                   ` singlespeeder
2001-04-25  9:06 ` Thoughts and Opinions or something like that Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-04-25 12:12   ` Jeffrey M. Vinocur
2001-04-26  2:12     ` Nicholas James NETHERCOTE
2001-04-26 18:23     ` Keith Thompson
2001-04-25 12:09 ` Alain Fischer
2001-04-27 18:20 ` brian hiles
2001-04-28  1:27   ` Gregory Toomey
2001-04-28 21:34     ` chris.danx [this message]
2001-04-28 21:34   ` chris.danx
2001-04-30  8:31     ` Jon Beniston
2001-05-04  8:49 ` Biep @ http://www.biep.org
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