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From: "Björn Persson" <spam-away@nowhere.nil>
Subject: Re: Filenames in Ada
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:13:01 GMT
Date: 2005-11-30T00:13:01+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <h86jf.151583$dP1.509417@newsc.telia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1255659.7PSTQaQJvX@linux1.krischik.com>

Martin Krischik wrote:
> But I take it that on a Russian system the Windows-1251 code
> page is active and all filenames are expressed using that and not Latin 1.

Speaking of that, do you know how to find out which code page is active? 
Can I get it from C's nl_langinfo like in Unix?

> It is sad that XML/Ada has no UCS-2 and UCS-4 convertion available - but
> AdaCL allready has that - so not problem for you really.

My main problem is lack of time. I found a job a year ago. Darn! ;-)

>>It seems that the right thing to do would be to tap into the Gnat
>>library and make UTF-16 (or UCS-2) versions of the file operations. It
>>could be as easy as changing the parameter type and replacing calls to
>>the Windows functions with their -W equivalents, or it could be very
>>hairy.
> 
> I had that idea as well and did take a look. Lots of "pragma Import" there.

I take it you mean that's a complication. You can't just import other 
functions?

> Well there seems an better article:
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/fs/naming_a_file.asp

Well, it says "Windows stores the long file names on disk in Unicode", 
so now we have to guess which encoding it is they call "Unicode". I'm 
guessing UTF-16, because UTF-16 was defined by Unicode while I think 
UCS-2 was defined by ISO.

Maybe you can do an experiment? Create a file with a surrogate pair in 
the name and see how it's shown in the file manager. You may get boxes 
or something if Windows doesn't have the glyphs, but if you see only one 
box it's obviusly been interpreted as UTF-16. If you see two boxes or 
you get some error then Windows seems to expect UCS-2.

> I wonder about that \\?\ stuff and what it really means

It looks like a crude hack to allow longer paths by bypassing parts of 
the library. Anyway it's not relevant to the question of character 
encodings.

-- 
Bjï¿œrn Persson                              PGP key A88682FD
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-30  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-23 17:36 Filenames in Ada Martin Krischik
2005-11-23 18:09 ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-24 19:16   ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-23 18:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-24 19:13   ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-24 20:49     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-24 21:23       ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-25  7:12       ` krischik
2005-11-25 12:25         ` [OT] VMS ODS-5 filesystems, was: " Simon Clubley
2005-11-25 18:01           ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-25 18:27             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-25 19:54               ` Martin Krischik
     [not found]             ` <gjqeo157udsnbfuq8ak4dosf6nep5fomss@4ax.com>
2005-11-27  9:31               ` [OT] VMS DCL prompt, was: " Martin Krischik
2005-11-30  0:16                 ` [OT] Administrator accounts (was: VMS DCL prompt) Björn Persson
2005-11-30  4:23                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-23 22:18 ` Filenames in Ada Randy Brukardt
2005-11-24  3:21   ` Silly question about strings (was: Filenames in Ada) Steve
2005-11-24  4:58     ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-24  9:15       ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-24 11:30         ` Silly question about strings Brian May
2005-11-24 13:06         ` Silly question about strings (was: Filenames in Ada) Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-29  3:17     ` Randy Brukardt
2005-11-29  5:53       ` tmoran
2005-11-29 21:48         ` Randy Brukardt
2005-11-30  0:15         ` Björn Persson
2005-11-24 19:05   ` Filenames in Ada Martin Krischik
2005-11-25  6:54     ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-26  1:22 ` Björn Persson
2005-11-27 10:21   ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-30  0:13     ` Björn Persson [this message]
2005-12-01  6:59       ` Martin Krischik
2005-12-03  1:07         ` Björn Persson
2005-12-14  6:59         ` Dave Thompson
2005-12-15 20:23           ` Martin Krischik
2005-12-17  0:22             ` program privileges (was: Filenames in Ada) Georg Bauhaus
2005-12-17 16:59             ` Filenames in Ada Simon Wright
2005-12-17 23:18               ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-12-18 13:30                 ` privileges in Unix and VMS (was: Filenames in Ada) Björn Persson
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