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From: Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Filenames in Ada
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:23:04 +0100
Date: 2005-12-15T21:23:04+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1993143.vyPih64Mhk@linux1.krischik.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 992vp1pv50m3oqoliarp0s5lbi23n9otih@4ax.com

Dave Thompson wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 07:59:45 +0100, Martin Krischik
> <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> <snip>
>> Well, Windows is full of Hacks as well. An so is Unix. Just yesterday I
>> read that the "Uni" in Unix stands for "single user". Originally Unix was
>> a scaled down single user alternative to "Multrix". Well that explains a
>> lot.
> 
> Multics, the Multiplexed Information and Computing Service. See
> www.multicians.org for (much!) more. Not single user -- even the very
> first, internal Bell Labs systems had multiple concurrent users -- but
> small numbers of users: then perhaps 2-10 on a minicomputer, today
> typically 10s to 100s (real users e.g. shell not say HTTP requesters,
> which could be hugely more), compared to the big-iron mainframe
> timesharing systems of the day which were 100s to many 1000s.
> 
>> Indeed there is only one real user on Unix - the user with the ID 0.
>> 
> What do you mean "real"? There is only one superuser id, or
> equivalently all system/manager privileges/roles are combined into one
> userid, which is certainly a limitation that is sometimes a problem.
> But Unix does (or perhaps Unices do, since there are now a range of
> them) support multiple "ordinary" users pretty well. If competently
> administered, which many personal (Linux etc.) systems aren't.

big-iron machines normally need more then one superuser - sometimes some of
them might want a holiday. May be not every superuser need all the
superpowers.

I permanently have a root console open on my system and when I use a Linux
system where I don't have the root password I feel like a cripple.

I don't feel that way on VMS - there is a SET PRIVILEGE command there.

Martin 
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-15 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-23 17:36 Filenames in Ada Martin Krischik
2005-11-23 18:09 ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-24 19:16   ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-23 18:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-24 19:13   ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-24 20:49     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-11-24 21:23       ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-25  7:12       ` krischik
2005-11-25 12:25         ` [OT] VMS ODS-5 filesystems, was: " Simon Clubley
2005-11-25 18:01           ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-25 18:27             ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-25 19:54               ` Martin Krischik
     [not found]             ` <gjqeo157udsnbfuq8ak4dosf6nep5fomss@4ax.com>
2005-11-27  9:31               ` [OT] VMS DCL prompt, was: " Martin Krischik
2005-11-30  0:16                 ` [OT] Administrator accounts (was: VMS DCL prompt) Björn Persson
2005-11-30  4:23                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-23 22:18 ` Filenames in Ada Randy Brukardt
2005-11-24  3:21   ` Silly question about strings (was: Filenames in Ada) Steve
2005-11-24  4:58     ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-24  9:15       ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-24 11:30         ` Silly question about strings Brian May
2005-11-24 13:06         ` Silly question about strings (was: Filenames in Ada) Larry Kilgallen
2005-11-29  3:17     ` Randy Brukardt
2005-11-29  5:53       ` tmoran
2005-11-29 21:48         ` Randy Brukardt
2005-11-30  0:15         ` Björn Persson
2005-11-24 19:05   ` Filenames in Ada Martin Krischik
2005-11-25  6:54     ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-26  1:22 ` Björn Persson
2005-11-27 10:21   ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-30  0:13     ` Björn Persson
2005-12-01  6:59       ` Martin Krischik
2005-12-03  1:07         ` Björn Persson
2005-12-14  6:59         ` Dave Thompson
2005-12-15 20:23           ` Martin Krischik [this message]
2005-12-17  0:22             ` program privileges (was: Filenames in Ada) Georg Bauhaus
2005-12-17 16:59             ` Filenames in Ada Simon Wright
2005-12-17 23:18               ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-12-18 13:30                 ` privileges in Unix and VMS (was: Filenames in Ada) Björn Persson
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