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From: Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: abstract sub programs overriding
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:00:44 +0100
Date: 2004-03-12T15:00:44+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <h5g3509jghegrfkpt06n5q56ctsjmoolr4@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1079097006.572713@master.nyc.kbcfp.com

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:09:51 -0500, Hyman Rosen <hyrosen@mail.com>
wrote:

>Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> As a matter of fact, in Ada T and T'Class are different types. I tried
>> to explain you that the problem with constructors in C++ is rooted in
>> equalizing T and T'Class. That in your universe there is no such
>> distinction does not mend the problem.
>> 
>> ... this is why a two-stage construction is required for them. The
>> point is very simple - each type needs a constructor. So when T is
>> view-convertible to T'Class, then two constructors have to be applied:
>> one of T, one of T'Class. In the constructor of T you cannot dispatch,
>> in the constructor of T'Class you can do it safely.
>
>But this is not Ada, but AdaDK. In Ada, T'Class objects don't have
>their own constructors, or initializers, or anything. All T'Class
>objects are just a view of a (derived from) T object. Am I wrong?
>A declared T'Class object has to be initialized by a T actual,
>perhaps one returned by a T'Class function, where the return value
>must then be a T actual. A declared T'Class parameter is just a
>view of some T object.
>
>I think that once again you are making blanket statements which
>confuse, or conflate, aspects of Ada as they are and aspects of
>Ada as you wish they would be.

Any comparative consideration of object construction should be based
on this or that theory, which according to you always confuse and
conflate whatsoever aspects of a language X.

OK, let's add to the law of Moses:

C++ does everything right and anything else is not Ada.

--
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-12 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-02 19:01 abstract sub programs overriding Evangelista Sami
2004-03-03  1:43 ` Stephen Leake
2004-03-05 15:02   ` Evangelista Sami
2004-03-05 16:15     ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-08 18:54       ` Adam Beneschan
2004-03-08 23:42         ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-05 16:26     ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-06  9:31       ` Simon Wright
2004-03-06 15:18         ` Evangelista Sami
2004-03-06 19:09           ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-07 12:35             ` Simon Wright
2004-03-07 13:39               ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-08 19:08               ` Adam Beneschan
2004-03-08 20:03                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-09  8:51                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-09 13:34                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-09 14:49                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-09 15:14                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-09 15:56                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-09 16:32                             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-10  9:32                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-10 13:08                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-10 14:58                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-10 16:00                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-10 18:07                                       ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-10 20:04                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-11  2:43                                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-11 13:55                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-12 23:02                                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-14 21:33                                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-15  5:59                                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-15 14:39                                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-16 16:16                                                       ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-16 16:51                                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-16 19:54                                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-16 23:16                                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2004-03-17  1:54                                                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-16 23:14                                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2004-03-17  2:43                                                           ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-17 17:40                                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2004-03-18  2:39                                                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-18  5:57                                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2004-03-18 15:03                                                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-18 20:32                                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2004-03-19  3:59                                                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-19 19:37                                                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2004-03-16  6:00                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2004-03-11 10:09                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-11 14:10                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-11 14:59                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-11 15:40                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-11 16:28                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-11 17:26                                             ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-12  8:53                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-12 13:09                                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-12 14:00                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2004-03-12 14:56                                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-12 18:19                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-12 18:34                                                         ` Hyman Rosen
2004-03-12 20:05                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-03-13 10:12                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-03-12 18:07                                               ` Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-10 15:51                 ` Evangelista Sami
2004-03-11  1:38                   ` Dan Eilers
2004-03-06 23:20     ` Dan Eilers
2004-03-03 12:00 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-13  7:51 ` Simon Wright
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