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From: gwinn@res.ray.com (Joe Gwinn)
Subject: Re: Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered?
Date: 1996/06/25
Date: 1996-06-25T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gwinn-2506961919470001@smc19.ed.ray.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9606212019.AA11075@eight-ball


I guess I am not convinced that freeware, although certainly useful, is
anything I would normally choose to bet my project on.  Gnu C seems to be
the sole exception.  And, development of industrial-strength tool suites
requires industrial-strength cashflow.


In article <9606212019.AA11075@eight-ball>, Bob Crispen
<revbob@EIGHT-BALL.HV.BOEING.COM> wrote:

> Joe Gwinn <gwinn@RES.RAY.COM> sez:
> 
> >For large-scale use, only a few vendors survive, and consolidations will
> >likely continue.  The Ada market is clearly shrinking.  I submit the only
> >metric that counts is aggregate revenue to the Ada compiler and tool
> >vendors, as the rate of further development of Ada depends on the size of
> >their food supply.  I don't have the revenue figures, but I bet someone on
> >this newsgroup does, and ask that the figures from 1983 to present be
> >posted.
> 
> I believe you're suggesting that we measure precisely the wrong thing.
> The existence of gnat (and the phenomenally good performance of gnat
> at this point in its history) has changed the marketplace.
> 
> Today compiler vendors don't have to keep a huge staff of compiler
> writers on the payroll.  That means that they can focus almost all their
> manpower on product differentiation (e.g., GUI builders, bindings,
> support for niche platforms) and on product support.
> 
> Thus, we could see fewer dollars changing hands, but still have a very
> healthy Ada environment.
> 
> Gnat has also spawned a small horde of hobbyists who'll never pay a
> cent for their gnat compilers, but who may one day become a truly
> significant force for Ada.  Looking at the bucks ignores every single
> one of these people.
> 
> Gross revenues, like lines of source code, are easy to measure.  But
> that doesn't mean they're *worth* measuring.
> 
> Bob.Crispen@boeing.com
> Speaking for myself, not my company




  reply	other threads:[~1996-06-25  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-06-21  0:00 Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered? Bob Crispen
1996-06-25  0:00 ` Joe Gwinn [this message]
1996-06-25  0:00   ` Michael Feldman
1996-06-27  0:00     ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-01  0:00         ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-27  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-27  0:00 ` Bob Crispen
1996-06-28  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-30  0:00 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-07-03  0:00   ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-07-10  0:00       ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-10  0:00         ` David Emery
1996-07-11  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-15  0:00             ` Brad Balfour
1996-07-11  0:00         ` James Rhodes
1996-07-11  0:00         ` Jim Chelini
1996-07-22  0:00           ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-12  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-30  0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1996-06-30  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-30  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1996-07-12  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
     [not found] <nhd91w250f.fsf@paralysys>
1996-07-16  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-06-17  0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-06-19  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-19  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-14  0:00 Mark Bell
1996-06-14  0:00 Mark Bell
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Kevin J. Weise
1996-06-17  0:00   ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00   ` Michael Levasseur
1996-05-08  0:00 Howard Dodson
1996-05-08  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
     [not found]   ` <31913863.446B9B3D@escmail.orl.mmc.com>
1996-05-10  0:00     ` Robert Munck
1996-05-13  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1996-05-14  0:00         ` Robert Munck
1996-05-14  0:00           ` Tucker Taft
1996-05-17  0:00             ` Robert Munck
1996-05-13  0:00       ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-05-08  0:00 ` David Weller
1996-05-08  0:00 ` Thomas C. Timberlake
1996-06-03  0:00 ` Roy M. Bell
1996-06-09  0:00   ` Peggy Byers
1996-06-09  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-09  0:00     ` David Weller
1996-06-10  0:00     ` James Krell
1996-06-11  0:00       ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-13  0:00           ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-14  0:00             ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-15  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-17  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-20  0:00             ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-25  0:00               ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Paul Whittington
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-12  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12  0:00   ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-12  0:00     ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-13  0:00       ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-13  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-18  0:00           ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18  0:00             ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-24  0:00         ` Carl Bowman
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-14  0:00       ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-21  0:00   ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-22  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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