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From: gwinn@res.ray.com (Joe Gwinn)
Subject: Re: Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered?
Date: 1996/07/22
Date: 1996-07-22T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gwinn-2207961149070001@smc19.ed.ray.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 31E4F95A.7D48@east.thomsoft.com


In article <31E4F95A.7D48@east.thomsoft.com>, Jim Chelini
<jchelini@east.thomsoft.com> wrote:

> In at least one of the cases of FAA RFPs (WAAS)that you are referring 
> to, the choice of langague was mandated to be C.  However, in this case 
> the FAA had already invested in a prototype system that was wriiten in C 
> on PCs and they wanted to reuse some of this investment.  The 
> contractors now doing the job still have to figure out how they are 
> going to certify this system to the FAA's standards (namily DO-178B).  
> While doable (maybe) with a C implementation (plus OS), it would be 
> easier in a controlled subset of Ada.

Hi Jim,

Not exactly.  There was a big discussion about reusing the research
prototype code, and the FAA subsequently made it clear that they did *not*
want us to reuse that code.  The issue was safety.  The prototype code was
research-grade, and was neither intended nor designed for full-scale
worldwide operational use in a safety-critical system carrying millions of
civilians.  The plan was to use the existing code as a particularly
detailed form of documentation, and to develop the operational code from
scratch using the full-blown formal safety-critical software design and
development process, with redundant and mutually-suspicious components. 
The whole nine yards.

Has anybody an example of a recent FAA RFP/SOW either asking for or
permitting Ada?  I think that's the key question.

Joe.




  reply	other threads:[~1996-07-22  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-06-21  0:00 Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered? Bob Crispen
1996-06-25  0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-25  0:00   ` Michael Feldman
1996-06-27  0:00     ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-01  0:00         ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-27  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-27  0:00 ` Bob Crispen
1996-06-28  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-30  0:00 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-07-03  0:00   ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-07-10  0:00       ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-10  0:00         ` David Emery
1996-07-11  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-15  0:00             ` Brad Balfour
1996-07-11  0:00         ` Jim Chelini
1996-07-22  0:00           ` Joe Gwinn [this message]
1996-07-11  0:00         ` James Rhodes
1996-07-12  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-30  0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1996-06-30  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-30  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1996-07-12  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
     [not found] <nhd91w250f.fsf@paralysys>
1996-07-16  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-06-17  0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-06-19  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-19  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-14  0:00 Mark Bell
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Kevin J. Weise
1996-06-17  0:00   ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00   ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-14  0:00 Mark Bell
1996-05-08  0:00 Howard Dodson
1996-05-08  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
     [not found]   ` <31913863.446B9B3D@escmail.orl.mmc.com>
1996-05-10  0:00     ` Robert Munck
1996-05-13  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1996-05-14  0:00         ` Robert Munck
1996-05-14  0:00           ` Tucker Taft
1996-05-17  0:00             ` Robert Munck
1996-05-13  0:00       ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-05-08  0:00 ` David Weller
1996-05-08  0:00 ` Thomas C. Timberlake
1996-06-03  0:00 ` Roy M. Bell
1996-06-09  0:00   ` Peggy Byers
1996-06-09  0:00     ` David Weller
1996-06-09  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Paul Whittington
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-10  0:00     ` James Krell
1996-06-11  0:00       ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-13  0:00           ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-14  0:00             ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-15  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-17  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-20  0:00             ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-25  0:00               ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-12  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12  0:00   ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-12  0:00     ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-13  0:00       ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-18  0:00           ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18  0:00             ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-13  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00         ` Carl Bowman
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-14  0:00       ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-21  0:00   ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-22  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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