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From: gwinn@ma.ultranet.com (Joe Gwinn)
Subject: Re: Urgent question: malloc and ada...READ/NEW/FOLLOWUP
Date: 1998/04/18
Date: 1998-04-18T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gwinn-1804981606410001@d254.dial-2.cmb.ma.ultra.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.892815844@merv


In article <dewar.892815844@merv>, dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wrote:

> Joe said
> 
> <<It's a lot of little things, too many to really list in any detail.
> >>
> 
> OK, so please list ONE specific case!

We have lists.  I'll see what I can publish when I return in a week.

 
> We seem to get from you this general diatribe on how difficult things are,
> but it seems hard to get a specific example. In my experience many of the
> "problems" that people have are not language problems at all, but simply
> cases of people not knowing the language well enough. Yes, these features
> are quite tricky to learn, but if you want to be successful in using Ada 95
> for handling low level interfacing, then you have to learn and understand
> the features in Ada 95 that accomplish this.

Umm.  Here we go again.  No, not all developers have doctorates in
anything, let alone computer science, but the problems of interfacing code
written in different languages, or even same language but different
compilers, have been with us for decades.  This is an area where details
are excruciatingly important.  

I am perplexed.  Why do you think Ada, a capable but complex language, is
any different?  Why do you express surprise that people have problems
here, and demand the evidence, as if to prepare for a federal court case?

Also, I don't know that having the enitire list in detail would help
people, because they will have a different combination of languages and
compilers.  What's more useful is the advice to focus on the interface
details in your particular setup, because history has shown this area to
be a rich source of trouble.


> So, please give ONE example from your "lot of little things", we will settle
> for not having the complete list if it is so long!

I have to wonder if I will ever be able to provide enough details to
satisfy you.  Past history isn't encouraging.  


Joe Gwinn




  reply	other threads:[~1998-04-18  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-04-07  0:00 Urgent question: malloc and ada Guido Tesch
1998-04-09  0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-04-10  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1998-04-12  0:00     ` Joe Gwinn
1998-04-12  0:00       ` Enumeration Types (was: Urgent question: malloc and ada) Matthew Heaney
1998-04-13  0:00         ` Mark A Biggar
1998-04-10  0:00   ` Urgent question: malloc and ada...READ/NEW/FOLLOWUP Larry Kilgallen
1998-04-12  0:00     ` Joe Gwinn
1998-04-14  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1998-04-16  0:00         ` Joe Gwinn
1998-04-17  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-04-18  0:00             ` Joe Gwinn [this message]
1998-04-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-04-25  0:00                 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-04-26  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1998-04-26  0:00                     ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-04-26  0:00                       ` Simon Wright
1998-04-26  0:00                         ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-04-27  0:00                           ` Stephen Leake
1998-04-26  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1998-04-30  0:00                       ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-04-30  0:00                         ` Urgent question: malloc and ada Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                           ` <matthew_heaney-ya023680003004981723000001@news.ni.net>
1998-05-01  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1998-05-01  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-05-02  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1998-05-02  0:00                                   ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-05-03  0:00                                     ` Richard Kenner
1998-05-03  0:00                                       ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-05-03  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
1998-05-03  0:00                                         ` Richard Kenner
1998-05-03  0:00                                     ` Robert Dewar
1998-05-03  0:00                                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-05-01  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1998-05-01  0:00                             ` Charles Hixson
1998-05-02  0:00                               ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-05-02  0:00                             ` Corey Minyard
1998-05-06  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-05-12  0:00                               ` Craig T. Spannring
1998-05-12  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1998-05-01  0:00                       ` Urgent question: malloc and ada...READ/NEW/FOLLOWUP Fergus Henderson
1998-05-01  0:00                     ` Joe Gwinn
1998-05-02  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-05-05  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
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