From: gwinn@res.ray.com (Joe Gwinn)
Subject: Re: Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement
Date: 1998/02/17
Date: 1998-02-17T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <gwinn-1702981842290001@dh5055083.res.ray.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 34E91572.CE9CEED2@cs.utexas.edu
Yongxiang,
In article <34E91572.CE9CEED2@cs.utexas.edu>, Yongxiang Gao
<gyx@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
> Now I've got 4 papers about the "complex" or "difficult" problems of Ada. It's
> DONE!
>
> Here I don't mean you're wrong because the ideas are perhaps out-of-date.
It would be useful if you could post the citations of the four papers you
mention on this newsgroup. Some of us would like to read them, any you
will probably also hear from the community on just what's wrong with those
papers.
As for the relative complexity of Ada83 as of ten years ago, the
comparison of the day was C, and there was no doubt then that Ada83
compilers were a great deal more complex than C compilers. I became
curious on the issue, and compared the DEC Ada compiler with the DEC "C"
compiler on the VAXen here. The DEC Ada compiler executable image was
about ten times larger than the DEC C compiler image. While size is not a
direct measure of complexity, ten to one is still a significant
difference.
C++ is quite another matter, and I suspect that Ada95 and C++ compilers
are of roughly equal complexity, and the languages are of roughly equal
difficulty to learn and use. C++ does get more and better press.
Joe Gwinn
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1998-02-15 0:00 Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Ralph Paul
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn [this message]
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-18 0:00 ` vonhend
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-22 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Dan Moran
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-19 0:00 ` John English
1998-02-22 0:00 ` Luis Espinal
1998-02-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-23 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-24 0:00 ` Jonas Nygren
1998-02-24 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-02-25 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-25 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1998-02-20 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-20 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1998-03-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-03-03 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-19 0:00 ` Ada's complexity Steve Furlong
1998-02-20 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement Simon Wright
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-19 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-02-20 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-02-18 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1998-03-05 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Andi Kleen
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-02-17 0:00 ` Geert Bosch
1998-02-19 0:00 ` Parsing Ada and C++ Steve Furlong
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Papers saying Ada as an overly complex language and hard to implement nabbasi
1998-02-16 0:00 ` Yongxiang Gao
1998-02-16 0:00 ` nabbasi
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