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From: chris <spamoff.danx@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Ada for a programming newb.
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:25:27 +0100
Date: 2003-09-19T15:25:27+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ghEab.3142$DM5.31911@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4zuab.5439$U6.3722@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>

Hyman Rosen wrote:

> What rubbish! "Programming-by-side-effect" has been the essence of
> computing from the very beginning, from Turing machines to memory-
> mapped video displays. FP is a completely alien concept, having no
> intuitive correspondence to anything in the real world to make it
> amenable to understanding.

What rubbish!  Computing started with maths and is a form of 
mathematics.  A great deal of maths is side effect free.

> When I go to the barber, the result is not a new copy of me with
> shorter hair. It's the same old me witha side-effect applied.

How do you know?

> By the way, the first and second prize winners of the 2003 ICFP
> contest used C++. The Judges' Prize winners used C++ and Dylan.

And in previous years it was functional languages (Dylan is highly 
functional).  That only shows some languages are better suited than 
others to certain problems.




  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-19 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-14 20:36 Ada for a programming newb Kyle Root
2003-09-14 21:15 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-09-14 21:29 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-09-15 14:46 ` Jarimatti Valkonen
2003-09-18 17:31 ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-18 19:33   ` Luke A. Guest
2003-09-18 20:19     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-09-18 20:30     ` chris
2003-09-19  1:38     ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-09-19  3:17       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-09-19 14:25         ` chris [this message]
2003-09-19 15:09           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-09-19 15:12             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-09-19 15:13               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-09-19 15:42           ` Preben Randhol
2003-09-19 18:00             ` Stephane Richard
2003-09-21  1:16               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-09-19 15:51         ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-09-22 12:00           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-22 12:04             ` chris
2003-09-22 12:33               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-09-22 12:28                 ` Stephane Richard
2003-09-22 19:37             ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-09-23  9:30               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-09-23 17:49                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-09-24  9:53                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-09-19  1:44     ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-09-19 13:30       ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-19  3:09     ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-19 21:40       ` Luke A. Guest
2003-09-21 15:09         ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-19 16:34   ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-09-19 23:57     ` Isaac Gouy
2003-09-20  7:20 ` Anders Wirzenius
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