From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: GNAT and Tasklets
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:59:56 +0100
Date: 2014-12-19T09:59:56+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <g5yzn8c2w5ic.156k3wrg8f2ak.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m6vmbu$82q$1@loke.gir.dk
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:01:18 -0600, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> As I noted later, there should only be one task reading/writing the socket
> at a time.
That might be OK for a server application, but clients must read and write
from socket concurrently. In a half-duplex scenario (client-server is) it
is highly advisable that one of the peers read and write simultaneously in
order to prevent deadlock. Consider a case when a peer tries to write when
another is reading. This may happen in half-duplex exchange on protocol
errors.
For full-duplex exchanges you simply must do it concurrently. There are
lots of full-duplex protocols over sockets.
> That's of course especially true with a proper higher-level communications
> library, since there almost certainly will be instance data that needs to be
> protected against multi-access.
That is not a problem, usually. The states manipulated when reading and
ones upon writing are usually well insulated.
>> Having several I/O-processes makes it easy to change the
>> way of communication, and still have the same business logic.
>> (say an installation from 1992 talks Siemens 3964r/k512 over a serial
>> line (its a old standard protocol) and they want to switch plc's
>> which talks tcp/ip with another transmission protocol.
>> If keeping the messages within the protocol intact,
>> then it's just matter of a new I/O process.
>> The rest of the system is untouched including business logic processes.
>> (I just did this this spring)
>
> I still think this sounds way too low-level.
Typical socket architecture is
1. Low-level I(O
2. Protocol stack(s)
3. Application logic
Any of 1-3 can be handled tasks taken from some workers pool.
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Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-10 16:31 GNAT and Tasklets vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-11 10:02 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-12-11 16:30 ` Anh Vo
2014-12-11 18:15 ` David Botton
2014-12-11 21:45 ` Egil H H
2014-12-11 23:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-12 2:28 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-12-12 8:46 ` vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-12 23:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-12-13 2:06 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-13 6:50 ` Dirk Craeynest
2014-12-14 0:18 ` Hubert
2014-12-14 21:29 ` vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-16 5:09 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-17 13:24 ` vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-16 4:42 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-17 13:06 ` vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-17 20:31 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-12-17 22:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-17 22:52 ` Björn Lundin
2014-12-17 23:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-18 10:39 ` Björn Lundin
2014-12-18 23:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-19 8:39 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-12-19 23:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-19 8:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2014-12-19 11:56 ` Björn Lundin
2014-12-20 0:02 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-18 8:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-18 8:56 ` vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-18 9:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-18 10:32 ` vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-18 11:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-18 12:09 ` vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-18 13:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-19 10:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-12-19 11:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-19 16:42 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-19 17:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-19 18:35 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-19 20:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-20 1:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-20 17:36 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-21 18:23 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-21 19:21 ` Shark8
2014-12-21 19:45 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-21 23:21 ` Shark8
2014-12-22 16:53 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-21 21:35 ` tmoran
2014-12-21 22:50 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-21 23:34 ` Shark8
2014-12-22 16:55 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-22 23:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-20 16:49 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-12-20 17:58 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-19 19:43 ` Peter Chapin
2014-12-19 20:45 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-12-19 20:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-19 23:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-19 23:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-18 22:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-19 13:01 ` GNAT�and Tasklets vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-19 17:46 ` GNAT?and Tasklets Brad Moore
2014-12-20 0:39 ` GNAT and Tasklets Peter Chapin
2014-12-20 9:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-20 0:58 ` GNAT�and Tasklets Randy Brukardt
2014-12-18 9:34 ` GNAT and Tasklets Niklas Holsti
2014-12-18 9:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-17 21:08 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-18 8:47 ` vincent.diemunsch
2014-12-18 21:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-17 22:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-18 0:56 ` Shark8
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