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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Idiom for a class and an object in Ada
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:39:42 +0200
Date: 2004-10-20T10:39:42+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <g5xenepow3t3$.1obbbyroo690h.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: uoeixvols.fsf@earthlink.net

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:24:31 GMT, Matthew Heaney wrote:

> For reasons I can't fathom, many Ada95 developers still have a very
> Ada83 mindset.

Probably because Ada 83 was good! (:-)) 

> package P is
> 
>    type T (<>) is limited private;
> 
>    procedure Op (O : in T);
> 
>    function Object1 return T;
>    function Object2 return T;
> 
> private
> 
>    type T is limited record ...;
> 
> end P;

This approach is difficult to follow with read-write objects, because it
then forces to use indirection.

> This is exactly how Text_IO works.  The objects returned by functions
> Standard_Input, Standard_Output, etc, correspond to the functions
> Object1 and Object2 above.

Yes and the price is heavy:

   procedure Put(File : in File_Type; Item : in Character); 

writes into *in* File! Even if File_Type is considered to be an "iterator",
"access window" etc, rather than the file, then definitely Put and Get
should *change* it. So what is File_Type? It is a language construct to
provide a work-around for the pattern above, i.e. a hack. A bit watery for
an IDIOM.

> This is the canonical Ada95 idiom for controlling instance creation, and
> for declaring well-known objects.

Yes, but it lacks an ability to create non-constant objects on the stack,
and it requires an extra indirection level. There should be a way for
forward object declarations.

   type X (<>) is limited private;
   A : X renames private; -- Forward rename
or so
   A : X := private; -- Forward initialization
or
   A : private X;
private
   type X is record
      Field : Integer;
   end record;
   A : X := (Field => 123); 

Then of course there should be a way for in-place modification of the
result for by-reference types and copy-out/copy-in for all others.
Anonymous access results are good, but I'd prefer a more elaborated
solution without access types.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-20  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-18 11:47 Idiom for a class and an object in Ada Marin David Condic
2004-10-18 12:14 ` Martin Krischik
2004-10-18 19:40   ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 12:59   ` Marin David Condic
2004-10-19 14:46     ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-19 15:55       ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 18:31         ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-19 15:52     ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-18 12:26 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-10-19  2:09   ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-19  3:28     ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 12:53       ` Marin David Condic
2004-10-19 14:44         ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 15:01           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-19 15:40             ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-20  7:58               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-20 12:31                 ` Marin David Condic
2004-10-20 13:53                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-20 15:23                   ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-21 12:24                     ` Marin David Condic
2004-10-21 17:15                       ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-20  5:39         ` Simon Wright
2004-10-20  7:24           ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-20  8:39             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2004-10-21  1:36             ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-21  1:46               ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-21  7:51                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-21 12:45                   ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-21 14:11                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2004-10-22  1:04                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-22  1:36                   ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-21 19:31               ` Kevin Cline
2004-10-21 22:02                 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-22  0:10                   ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-21  8:25             ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-20 17:04           ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-20 19:37             ` Simon Wright
2004-10-20 20:04               ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-22  5:37                 ` Simon Wright
2004-10-20  1:10       ` Jeffrey Carter
2004-10-20  7:04         ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-20 12:42           ` Marin David Condic
2004-10-20 12:55             ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-20 15:27             ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-21  1:36               ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-19 12:38   ` Marin David Condic
2004-10-18 16:59 ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-18 18:02 ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-19 13:06   ` Marin David Condic
2004-10-19 14:51     ` Martin Dowie
2004-10-20 16:20 ` Michael Paus
2004-10-20 17:15   ` Matthew Heaney
2004-10-20 17:55     ` Michael Paus
2004-10-21 12:33   ` Marin David Condic
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2004-10-21 13:59 Stephen Leake
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