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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Enumeration representation clause surprise.
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:37:06 -0500
Date: 2008-06-11T21:37:06-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <g2q251$29b$1@jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: g2oqld$qli$1@nntp.ilk.net

"Markus Schoepflin" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message 
news:g2oqld$qli$1@nntp.ilk.net...
> Adam Beneschan wrote:
>> On Jun 11, 6:28 am, Samuel Tardieu <s...@rfc1149.net> wrote:
>>> Markus> This is exactly my point. I would have expected a compile time 
>>> error
>>> Markus> for this impossible request.
>>>
>>> Markus> Representation clauses are (amongst other) meant to specify 
>>> specific
>>> Markus> binary layouts for interfacing with the external world. Or am I
>>> Markus> mistaken here?
>>>
>>> I can't find anything in RM chapter 13 which either forbids or allows
>>> such a behaviour. I will submit a patch for GNAT which gives a new
>>> warning for this case:
>>>
>>>     11.       A1 at 0 range 0 .. 0; -- (*)
>>>                  |
>>>         >>> warning: component representation will be biased
>>
>> This seems odd to me.  Having GNAT select a biased component in
>> Christoph's example makes some sense, since a compiler can choose any
>> representation it likes.  But in Markus' case, he specifically asked
>> for a certain representation for the enumeration types---should GNAT
>> take it upon itself to change that, and display a warning that doesn't
>> make it clear that it's disrespecting his request to have the
>> enumeration represented a certain way?
>
> Do you suggest to reword the warning? Or give an error instead?

I agree with Adam (whose message I mysteriously didn't receive). Even if the 
letter of the RM allows this sort of behavior, it seems wrong from an 
expectation basis: an explicitly given representation clause is being 
ignored where there is a conflict between two of them. That's never a good 
thing. So I think this should be an error - a compiler shouldn't be changing 
explicitly given representation items. (I realize that this may not be a 
generally held opinion.)

For the record, Janus/Ada gives:

In File D:\Testing\Win\console\rep.ada at line 11
--------------
   10:      for RECORD_T use record
   11:         A1 at 0 range 0 .. 0; -- (*)
----------------------------------^
*ERROR* More bits are needed to store all values of the type (6.4.17) [RM 
13.5.1(19)]
Continue <Sp> or Abort <^C>?

for this example. But that's not all that interesting, because Janus/Ada 
doesn't support biased representations.

                                 Randy.





  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-12  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-11 11:38 Enumeration representation clause surprise Markus Schoepflin
2008-06-11 12:30 ` christoph.grein
2008-06-11 12:56   ` Markus Schoepflin
2008-06-11 13:08     ` christoph.grein
2008-06-11 13:28     ` Samuel Tardieu
2008-06-11 13:48       ` Markus Schoepflin
2008-06-11 13:56         ` Samuel Tardieu
2008-06-11 14:58       ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-11 15:23         ` Markus Schoepflin
2008-06-12  2:37           ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2008-06-12  2:37           ` Randy Brukardt
2008-06-11 15:56         ` Samuel Tardieu
2008-06-11 19:10           ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-11 19:59             ` Niklas Holsti
2008-06-12  1:16               ` tmoran
2008-06-12  8:27                 ` christoph.grein
2008-06-12  8:45               ` Markus Schoepflin
2008-06-12 16:43                 ` Mike Silva
2008-06-12 18:41                   ` Markus Schöpflin
2008-06-12 20:10                     ` Mike Silva
2008-06-12 20:52                       ` Simon Wright
2008-06-12 23:36                         ` Mike Silva
2008-06-13  5:49                           ` Simon Wright
2008-06-13  7:21                       ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-13 13:31                         ` Mike Silva
2008-06-13 14:45                           ` Markus Schoepflin
2008-06-13 17:52                           ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-13  9:14                       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2008-06-12 19:05 ` richtmyer
2008-06-12 21:26   ` Samuel Tardieu
2008-06-12 22:42     ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-13  7:11       ` Samuel Tardieu
2008-06-13  8:27       ` christoph.grein
2008-06-13 16:21         ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-15 19:33           ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-16 14:50             ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-16 19:18               ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-17  6:03               ` christoph.grein
2008-06-17  7:22                 ` christoph.grein
2008-06-13  8:24     ` Peter Hermann
2008-06-13 14:47       ` Samuel Tardieu
2008-06-14 11:48         ` John B. Matthews
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