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From: "I. Levashew" <octagram@bluebottle.com>
Subject: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:45:24 +0600
Date: 2008-01-16T15:45:24+06:00	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <5ae45c1f-f286-4e13-96b1-b1da742107d3@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>

Vadim Godunko О©╫О©╫О©╫О©╫О©╫:
> Both Gtk+/GtkAda and Qt/QtAda are portable. They work on UNIX/Linux,
> MS Windows, Mac OS. So, this is not an advantage.

Qt programs are aliens on Mac OS X. They differ from "normal" programs. 
Currently there are two general GUI APIs on Mac OS X: Carbon and Cocoa.
Everybody favors Cocoa over Carbon. And Qt is worse than Carbon. And 
GTK+ does not even run on Mac OS X directly, only in X11. X11 in Mac OS 
X is even worse than Qt (which is worse than Carbon which is worse than 
Cocoa). No drag&drop, no window grouping (Expose). Each X11 window 
belong to X11.app. No own main menu. Neither Qt nor GTK+ provide user 
experience competeable with Cocoa. Users tend to favor Cocoa 
applications over Carbon, etc. based. And there is no Cocoa binding yet.

There is a good news about Cocoa. Apple started BridgeSupport project 
easing interfacing Cocoa to other languages.

Thus we have 2 projects: SWIG and BridgeSupport. They cover huge amount 
of code. Both ones don't support Ada currently (at least BS). But if 
they will...



  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-16  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-12 13:37 New Ada portable GUI Library? Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 15:19 ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-12 18:12   ` Lucretia
2008-01-12 20:40     ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 23:01       ` Lucretia
2008-01-13  5:17         ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-13  9:07           ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 10:49             ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-16  9:45               ` I. Levashew [this message]
2008-01-13  8:13         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13  9:11           ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 10:06             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 10:25               ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-13 12:36                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 19:58                   ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 21:00                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 21:53                       ` Michael Bode
2008-01-14  9:11                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 23:08                     ` Gary Scott
2008-01-13 23:31                       ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 23:50                         ` Gary Scott
2008-01-14 19:12                           ` Michael Bode
2008-01-13 11:27               ` Lucretia
2008-01-13 11:29               ` Lucretia
2008-01-15  7:34               ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15  8:38                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15  8:54                   ` Martin Krischik
2008-02-11 22:10               ` Martin
2008-02-12 18:35                 ` Martin Krischik
2008-02-12 21:43                   ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-13 11:14           ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-13 11:31             ` Lucretia
2008-01-14 17:58             ` Ben
2008-01-14 18:21               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-14 20:47                 ` Gautier
2008-01-14 21:32                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-13 13:28         ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-13 14:14           ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-13 14:22             ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-15  7:54               ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16  7:54                 ` Brian May
2008-01-16  8:47                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-16  8:52                   ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16 18:26                     ` tmoran
2008-01-13 22:22           ` Lucretia
2008-01-14 10:07             ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-12 18:36 ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? (was: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?) framefritti
2008-01-12 18:57   ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-01-12 19:27   ` Tomek Walkuski
2008-01-12 19:39   ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? Gautier
2008-01-12 20:26   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-12 21:58   ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-13  0:04   ` (slightly OT) Open Source licences? (was: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?) Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-12 22:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-13 11:04 ` New Ada portable GUI Library? Gautier
2008-01-15  7:56   ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 17:41     ` Gautier
2008-01-16  8:16     ` tmoran
2008-01-16  8:56       ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-16 19:34       ` Gautier
2008-01-16 22:51         ` Randy Brukardt
2008-01-17 20:32           ` Gautier
2008-01-18  1:41             ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-18 17:53               ` tmoran
2008-01-18 18:59                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-18 19:28                   ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-20 22:38                     ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-20  1:38                 ` Jerrid Kimball
2008-01-20 12:30                   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-20 13:40                   ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-20 14:36                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-15  8:17 ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15  9:14   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15 10:39     ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 14:01       ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-15 16:05         ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 17:31           ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-16  8:28             ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-17  2:21   ` I. Levashew
2008-01-17  7:34     ` OpenStep/GNUStep/Cocoa (Was: New Ada portable GUI Library?) Martin Krischik
2008-01-17  9:06       ` Ivan Levashew
2008-01-17 10:25         ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-18  3:28           ` Ivan Levashew
2008-01-18  7:24             ` Martin Krischik
2008-01-15 21:51 ` New Ada portable GUI Library? Phaedrus
2008-01-16  0:04   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-16  0:20     ` Phaedrus
2008-01-16  1:09       ` Randy Brukardt
2008-01-16  1:47         ` Phaedrus
2008-01-20 14:07 ` Andre
2008-01-21 23:14 ` Frederik Sausmikat
2008-01-27 11:26   ` Lucretia
2008-01-27 16:47     ` Gary Scott
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