From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Exceptions
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:12:03 -0600
Date: 2007-12-10T20:12:03-06:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fjkres$t27$1@jacob-sparre.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1kxk3hlfa25dw$.fl2wvbn0tpbg$.dlg@40tude.net
"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
news:1kxk3hlfa25dw$.fl2wvbn0tpbg$.dlg@40tude.net...
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> 1. How often do you declare a new exception when writing a new subprogram?
> My guess is about 1 / 10_000.
For me, it is more like 1/100. Most subsystems get their own set of
exceptions.
> 2. How often does a caller "eat" an exception of the callee instead of
> propagating it further? My guess is 1 / 10.
This I agree with, and it is my primary objection to exception contracts.
This means that you'll have to write long-winded handlers and/or contracts
on 9/10 of the calls. That is, it is the common case that takes more work.
That's usually bad.
> There is not that many handlers in a good designed code. This is probably
> the reason why people forget to handle exceptions properly. They are not
> that visible.
That's true: a lot of systems that I write have no handlers at all because
any exception being raised is a bug, and I want to know. The biggest problem
is insuring enough test coverage to make sure that the (latent) exceptions
(that is, bugs) get raised.
Most of the handlers I do write are of the form:
begin
Open (...); -- File or socket or ...
exception
when others => -- Couldn't open whatever. Abort program or
process.
end;
-- Use the open file.
But I'm not usually writing safety-critical systems. For programs that need
to keep running (for example, a mail server), I use a single global others
handler that logs any exceptions, since there should be none. But there
would no way to prove that statically, and I don't think I'd want to have to
write code structured to be able to try.
Randy.
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2007-12-06 15:00 Exceptions shaunpatterson
2007-12-06 21:24 ` Exceptions tmoran
2007-12-07 8:54 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-07 10:21 ` Exceptions Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-07 15:11 ` Exceptions shaunpatterson
2007-12-07 16:08 ` Exceptions Gautier
2007-12-07 18:56 ` Exceptions Simon Wright
2007-12-08 10:04 ` Exceptions Stephen Leake
2007-12-08 3:30 ` Exceptions Randy Brukardt
2007-12-08 10:09 ` Contracted exceptions for Ada (was: Exceptions) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-09 10:22 ` Contracted exceptions for Ada Stephen Leake
2007-12-09 11:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-11 8:10 ` Stephen Leake
2007-12-11 10:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-09 15:11 ` Contracted exceptions for Ada (was: Exceptions) Martin Krischik
2007-12-09 17:36 ` Contracted exceptions for Ada Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-09 18:39 ` Simon Wright
2007-12-10 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-10 20:25 ` Simon Wright
2007-12-11 8:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-11 20:50 ` Simon Wright
2007-12-12 10:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-09 19:04 ` Martin Krischik
2007-12-10 8:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-09 22:09 ` Robert A Duff
2007-12-10 7:09 ` Stefan Lucks
2007-12-10 16:57 ` Robert A Duff
2007-12-11 1:53 ` Contracted exceptions for Ada (was: Exceptions) Randy Brukardt
2007-12-11 9:16 ` Contracted exceptions for Ada Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-12 0:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-12-08 12:26 ` Exceptions Peter C. Chapin
2007-12-08 14:01 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-08 18:01 ` Exceptions Peter C. Chapin
2007-12-09 10:06 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-09 12:40 ` Exceptions Peter C. Chapin
2007-12-09 14:31 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-09 16:38 ` Exceptions Peter C. Chapin
2007-12-10 8:31 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-09 21:56 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-09 10:24 ` Exceptions Stephen Leake
2007-12-09 12:46 ` Exceptions Peter C. Chapin
2007-12-09 21:39 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-09 22:13 ` Exceptions Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-11 8:07 ` Exceptions Stephen Leake
2007-12-11 20:28 ` Exceptions Simon Wright
2007-12-12 22:10 ` Exceptions Maciej Sobczak
2007-12-13 13:40 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-13 14:00 ` Exceptions Maciej Sobczak
2007-12-13 14:44 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-14 0:46 ` Exceptions Ray Blaak
2007-12-14 2:36 ` Exceptions Randy Brukardt
2007-12-14 6:21 ` Exceptions Ray Blaak
2007-12-14 12:40 ` Exceptions Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-14 17:29 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-14 19:32 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-15 5:29 ` Exceptions Ray Blaak
2007-12-13 19:29 ` Exceptions Randy Brukardt
2007-12-12 19:18 ` Exceptions Martin Krischik
2007-12-13 13:27 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-13 23:25 ` Exceptions Ray Blaak
2007-12-06 21:25 ` Exceptions Gautier
2007-12-07 4:29 ` Exceptions anon
2007-12-07 4:43 ` Exceptions, part 2 anon
2007-12-07 16:55 ` Exceptions Adam Beneschan
2007-12-07 18:59 ` Exceptions Simon Wright
2007-12-08 0:38 ` Exceptions Adam Beneschan
2007-12-09 21:45 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-09 22:40 ` Exceptions Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-10 8:22 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-10 9:20 ` Exceptions Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-10 9:30 ` Exceptions Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-10 10:56 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-11 2:18 ` Exceptions Randy Brukardt
2007-12-11 8:19 ` Exceptions Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-11 11:55 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-11 16:13 ` Exceptions Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-12 11:18 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-10 12:09 ` Exceptions Niklas Holsti
2007-12-10 13:08 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-10 20:02 ` Exceptions Niklas Holsti
2007-12-11 12:31 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-11 13:21 ` Exceptions Niklas Holsti
2007-12-12 0:01 ` Exceptions Randy Brukardt
2007-12-12 11:37 ` Exceptions Niklas Holsti
2007-12-12 13:14 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-12 14:37 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-13 19:20 ` Exceptions Randy Brukardt
2007-12-13 20:15 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-12 11:00 ` Exceptions Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-11 2:12 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2007-12-11 15:17 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-12 0:10 ` Exceptions Randy Brukardt
2007-12-13 19:58 ` Exceptions Robert A Duff
2007-12-14 0:53 ` Exceptions Ray Blaak
2007-12-14 2:48 ` Exceptions Randy Brukardt
2007-12-14 6:33 ` Exceptions Ray Blaak
2007-12-08 10:03 ` Exceptions Stephen Leake
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1991-03-06 17:24 Exceptions David Erickson
1991-03-06 21:21 ` Exceptions Jerry Callen
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