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From: Mike Silva <snarflemike@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: rant (Re: Ada featured in Doctor Dobb's Journal )
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 03:57:00 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2008-05-17T03:57:00-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff074800-f8eb-4339-b171-24f51ff9c12b@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ba91fec6-cfc1-4b48-ad96-fa2a233e66f4@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com

On May 17, 2:30 am, "jhc0...@gmail.com" <jhc0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 5:28 am, Mike Silva <snarflem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 16, 6:56 am, Ludovic Brenta <ludo...@ludovic-brenta.org> wrote:
>
> > > An opinion piece from Joachim Schüeth, the winner of the British
> > > National Museum of Computing's Colossus Cipher Challenge.
>
> > >http://www.ddj.com/architect/207800151
>
> > > --
> > > Ludovic Brenta.
>
> > Good stuff.  Another statement of what I have read here so often, that
> > Ada is very good at letting one model the problem space rather than
> > having to work backwards from the solution space.
>
> > Mike
>
> People more familiar with language X than Y find that they spend less
> time thinking about the language when programming in X rather than Y.

But if anything the article suggests that, while more familiar with
language X (16 years) than language Y (1/2 year), he spent less time
thinking about the language when programming in _Y_ rather than _X_.
I don't see how you can possibly come to the conclusion you state from
the article.
>
> Right now, the article basically says: "Fortran had some cool features
> C didn't have, but C had some features Fortran didn't have, and we
> switched to C. But this guy uses Ada, because as we saw before, using
> different languages is OK, and the safety community uses it. He solved
> some discrete math problem he was trying to solve. He could have
> solved it just as easily in any other language perhaps, but would we
> write an article about it? The end".

If he could have solved it just as easily in any other language, why
would he write about being pleasantly surprised at the features in Ada
that allowed him to write his software in two months even though he
was only a novice in the language?  There is just no way you can
represent from the text of the article that the author's key point was
"I could have solved this problem just as easily in any other
language."

Mike



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-17 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-16 10:56 Ada featured in Doctor Dobb's Journal Ludovic Brenta
2008-05-16 12:28 ` Mike Silva
2008-05-16 13:04   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-05-16 14:33     ` Mike Silva
2008-05-16 22:26       ` Randy Brukardt
2008-05-17  6:30   ` rant (Re: Ada featured in Doctor Dobb's Journal ) jhc0033
2008-05-17  8:28     ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-05-17  9:27       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-05-17  9:56         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-05-17 12:05           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-05-17  9:38       ` jhc0033
2008-05-17 11:49         ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-05-17 17:53           ` jhc0033
2008-05-17 23:21             ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-05-18  0:28               ` jhc0033
2008-05-18  0:35               ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2008-05-18  8:04                 ` Prototyping with Ada (was: Ada featured in Doctor Dobb's Journal) Ludovic Brenta
2008-05-20 10:25                   ` John McCabe
2008-05-20 16:57                     ` Prototyping with Ada Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-05-20 17:23                       ` Mike Silva
2008-05-20 17:37                       ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-05-20 23:30                         ` Mike Silva
2008-05-21  0:40                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-05-21 12:53                         ` Martin Krischik
2008-05-22  8:43                     ` Stephen Leake
2008-05-28 11:32                       ` John McCabe
2008-05-28 12:12                         ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-05-29  3:27                           ` tmoran
2008-05-29  9:41                           ` John McCabe
2008-05-31  6:03                         ` Stephen Leake
2008-06-02 15:43                           ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-05-17  9:45     ` rant (Re: Ada featured in Doctor Dobb's Journal ) Georg Bauhaus
2008-05-17 10:57     ` Mike Silva [this message]
2008-05-17 16:49     ` tmoran
2008-05-16 22:56 ` Ada featured in Doctor Dobb's Journal Ivan Levashew
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