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From: Per Sandberg <per.sandberg@bredband.net>
Subject: Re: Ada in Debian: dropping support for the Distributed Systems Annex
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:54:01 +0200
Date: 2008-07-29T08:54:01+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6zjk.67325$7O1.57674@newsfe12.ams2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w678u4he2evj.rydrfbic5gnb.dlg@40tude.net>

Yes.
I would rephrase it to state SAAB has requested RTI to provide 
Ada-bindings for NDDS and that is a fairly thin binding (Quite close to 
OMGs IDL2Ada specefication)

However the cost for NDDS is quite high at the moment we are talking 
about figures in the magnintude of $1000 + runtime per target CPU.

However DDS is a very powerfull tool for data distrubution.

/Per

Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:49:21 GMT, Dr. Adrian Wrigley wrote:
> 
>> In these days of distributed systems and multicore processors, running
>> complex applications, you'd think Annex E support would be universal.
> 
> Well, maybe RPC is too heavy-weight, and problematic for heterogenous
> systems. It represents a client-server, synchronous (OK, there is APC too),
> peer-to-peer, static architecture. Procedural abstraction (RPC) is both
> low-level and expensive. Annex E lacks remote objects, remote types,
> agents, routing, time synchronization, abstracted networking hardware
> support.
> 
>> What's happening here?  It doesn't seem to have been used in any
>> major application (Air Traffic Control, Baggage Handling etc).
>> Obviously ACT isn't recommending it, but why isn't there customer pull?
> 
> For the distributed systems we are designing, we just deploy other
> architectures.
> 
> And AdaCore seems to look to the other side too:
> 
> http://www.adacore.com/2007/12/08/working-with-saab-adacore-and-rti-integrates-support-for-ada-with-dds-compliant-real-time-messaging-middleware/
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-29  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-28  6:38 Ada in Debian: dropping support for the Distributed Systems Annex xavier grave
2008-07-28 17:49 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2008-07-28 19:27   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-07-29  6:54     ` Per Sandberg [this message]
2008-07-29 13:19   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-07-30 14:22 ` Sébastien Morand
2008-07-30 17:15   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-07-30 20:22     ` anon
2008-07-31 15:25       ` Pascal Obry
2008-07-31 15:26       ` Pascal Obry
2008-07-31 20:35         ` anon
2008-08-01  7:12           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2008-08-01  8:06           ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-08-01 14:28             ` anon
2008-08-01 15:03               ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-08-01 17:56               ` Pascal Obry
2008-08-02  0:10                 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-08-02 11:15                 ` anon
2008-08-02  8:37               ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-08-01 10:09         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2008-08-01 17:51           ` Pascal Obry
2008-08-02 13:28             ` Colin Paul Gloster
2008-08-02 16:06               ` Gary Scott
2008-07-31  7:09     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
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