Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

[Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)]

Hi happy Ada novelers,

I was seeking for simply an Eclipse Ada colorizer (not that I don't enjoy  
GPS or AdaGIDE, this is just to have a more seamless environment when  
modeling comes in the place, and I will use Eclipse tools for that), when  
I learned (again), about AonixADT, which seems to be now part of the  
code-base of an Eclipse project named... Hibachi (Ichbiah's name anagram,  
so named in memory of Ichbiah).

The (old) proposal page is there:
http://www.eclipse.org/hibachi/
The later project page is here:
http://www.eclipse.org/hibachi/
And then, the download page:
http://download.eclipse.org/tools/hibachi/downloads/index.html

Looking at the download page, I see the last update is dated 2008. I am  
not aware of typical life cycle in the area of Ada tools nor in the area  
of Eclipse tools ; I just know two years without an update in an  
incomplete project is mostly an alarm in typical software project. I  
wanted to know what's the state of this project. Is there any involved  
parties here who could provide some notices about it ?

Also, I noted there is no update-site for this project (update-sites seems  
to be the preferred way to install anything in Eclipse).
I've tried something like http://download.eclipse.org/tools/hibachi , but  
it failed (Eclipse complained it found no software located on this  
address).

Is there a known update-site for Hibachi ? (possibly I did a wrong guess  
with the address I tried to figure)


      Have a nice time all, and happy designing (or happy modeling, lol)

Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

[Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)]

Hi happy Ada novelers,

I was seeking for simply an Eclipse Ada colorizer (not that I don't enjoy  
GPS or AdaGIDE, this is just to have a more seamless environment when  
modeling comes in the place, and I will use Eclipse tools for that), when  
I learned (again), about AonixADT, which seems to be now part of the  
code-base of an Eclipse project named... Hibachi (Ichbiah's name anagram,  
so named in memory of Ichbiah).

The (old) proposal page is there:
http://www.eclipse.org/hibachi/
The later project page is here:
http://www.eclipse.org/hibachi/
And then, the download page:
http://download.eclipse.org/tools/hibachi/downloads/index.html

Looking at the download page, I see the last update is dated 2008. I am  
not aware of typical life cycle in the area of Ada tools nor in the area  
of Eclipse tools ; I just know two years without an update in an  
incomplete project is mostly an alarm in typical software project. I  
wanted to know what's the state of this project. Is there any involved  
parties here who could provide some notices about it ?

Also, I noted there is no update-site for this project (update-sites seems  
to be the preferred way to install anything in Eclipse).
I've tried something like http://download.eclipse.org/tools/hibachi , but  
it failed (Eclipse complained it found no software located on this  
address).

Is there a known update-site for Hibachi ? (possibly I did a wrong guess  
with the address I tried to figure)


      Have a nice time all, and happy designing (or happy modeling, lol)

Re: Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

[Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)]

Le Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:31:02 +0200, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)  
<yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> a écrit:
> I just know two years without an update in an incomplete project is  
> mostly an alarm in typical software project.
While although marked as in Incubation stage since at least two years and  
the download page says some stuffs are not yet available, it seems to not  
be so much incomplete to me after a quick overview. Funny I've never seen  
any talk in C.L.A. about this environment. Looks worth trying (Yes, I know  
Eclipse is Java, but this is an IDE, “just” an IDE).

And this is an another opportunity to push Ada in Java shops LOL

There was a pseudo-bug report opened for this project, standing for a  
poll. During the voting, a sentence from someone makes me laugh (gently).  
Look at
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=202794
where someone said “Surprising how many people still write programs in  
Ada.” [dated 2007-09-17] (no-no, I am not trolling, I just play sharing  
funny things).


-- 
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Virus!” (anonymous)

Re: Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

[Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)]

Little note: do not use dot notation for project name if you use GNAT to  
compile, or else it will complain “project Foo does not extends project  
Bar”.

It generates GPR files, and can be configured to use GPR library; so don't  
be afraid to be sticked to an incompatible environment.

I just wonder why there is an Ada Navigator, which is mostly redundant  
with the Project Explorer. Wonder why this Ada Navigator was not designed  
on top of the Project Explorer. Alternatively, what the Ada Navigator  
displays for an Ada file, could have also been located in the Outliner.  
There is three tabs, with redundancy, where two tabs may have been enough  
(while I may possibly miss something, I know).

Re: Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

[Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)]

Le Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:09:56 +0200, John B. Matthews  
<nospam@nospam.invalid> a écrit:
> Sorry, no. The NetBeans Ada plugin was recently updated, and it's usable:
>
> <http://wiki.netbeans.org/Ada>
This is a different project, isn't it ? There seems to be no reference  
there to AonixADT.

Just heard about NetBean IDE, but never tried. Will have a look at it, at  
least to learn.
Thanks for the point.


-- 
“Dual licensing is the Perl's way to disinfect the GNU General Public  
Virus!” (anonymous)

Re: Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

[Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)]

Le Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:31:02 +0200, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)  
<yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> a écrit:
> Also, I noted there is no update-site for this project (update-sites  
> seems to be the preferred way to install anything in Eclipse).
I found one in the doc coming with the installed package, but I am not  
sure this one is good.
First the link to be (may be) entered as an update-site:
http://www.aonix.com/adt_update

The doubt: it says Aonix ADT version 3.2.3, and do not say anymore  
Habachi. So I do not know it this is really an update-site for Habachi or  
else a different application (may conflict if it is indeed a different  
application).

Do someone know about this update-site ? Which one should be used ?

Or may be this one is for users with commercial support ? (I know there is  
a commercial Aonix ADT beside of Habachi).

-- 
“Dual licensing is the Perl's way to disinfect the GNU General Public  
Virus!” (anonymous)

Re: Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

[Britt Snodgrass]

On Sep 8, 3:31 am, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
<yannick_duch...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

>
> Looking at the download page, I see the last update is dated 2008. I am  
> not aware of typical life cycle in the area of Ada tools nor in the area  
> of Eclipse tools ; I just know two years without an update in an  
> incomplete project is mostly an alarm in typical software project. I  
> wanted to know what's the state of this project. Is there any involved  
> parties here who could provide some notices about it ?

I could write more but it sufficient to say Hibachi was (effectively)
stillborn and remains quite dead.  If you want to use GNAT with
Eclipse 3.5.2 as the IDE then get GNATbench 2.4.0 from the GNAT GPL
site.  GNATbench 2.4 works quite well and supports SPARK.

- Britt

Re: Hibachi - Eclipse Ada Development Tooling

[John B. Matthews]

In article <op.vipmnfr8ule2fv@garhos>,
 Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Le Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:09:56 +0200, John B. Matthews  
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> a écrit:
> > Sorry, no. The NetBeans Ada plugin was recently updated, and it's usable:
> >
> > <http://wiki.netbeans.org/Ada>
> This is a different project, isn't it ? There seems to be no 
> reference  there to AonixADT.

Oops, my error. I overlooked the reference to AonixADT. The Ada Plugins 
for NetBeans project says it supports GNAT (85%) & JGNAT (50%).
 
> Just heard about NetBean IDE, but never tried. Will have a look at 
> it, at  least to learn. Thanks for the point.

I also use Xcode and Eclipse, but NetBeans is my favorite. I hate coming 
to depend on an IDE, but consistently formatted code is just plain 
easier to read.

-- 
John B. Matthews
trashgod at gmail dot com
<http://sites.google.com/site/drjohnbmatthews>