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From: "Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Re: Package's private parts and protected types
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:46:27 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2010-02-08T02:46:27-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f502e48c-c68b-48fa-9732-2a3480950a62@b7g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7ta6c5Fb1oU1@mid.individual.net

On 8 fév, 11:10, "Alex R. Mosteo" <alejan...@mosteo.com> wrote:
> Frankly, these non-orthogonalities about regular and protected/tasks types
> were really nagging me in Ada95 (the dot notation only for these types, for
> instance, and the visibility of privates that you point to). Now at Ada05,
> it's the mix of traditional and OO notation caused by interfaces what bugs
> me.
Although I've never confessed it here at comp.lang.ada, I feel the
same too, at least about notation. Luckily, Ada still allow me to
preserve consistency granting me the choice to use a dotted notation
or not : I never use the dotted notation for consistency and clarity
purpose (except that it's mandatory with protected types and tasks,
and that's ok for me with record components, as it's implementation
level).

> Also, the fact that making a protected version of a regular object involves
> so much boilerplate code is a regular déjà-vu that pains me in my dreams
> (;-)), compare it to java where adding the keyword synchronized is enough.
> (Not that I would want java granularity for synchronized; the bugs I've seen
> caused by "clever" overoptimization of critical sections...)
I could not tell about comparison between Java and Ada at this point,
as I've never experienced tasking with Java (I use to self-learn Java,
but quickly leave it for some reasons). While the point you've spotted
seems interesting.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-08 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-08  4:30 Package's private parts and protected types Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08  8:30 ` Martin
2010-02-08  9:11   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 10:10     ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-02-08 10:46       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne) [this message]
2010-02-09 14:55         ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-02-08 10:20   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-08 10:54     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 10:58       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 11:01       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-08 13:19         ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-02-08 15:17         ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 16:15           ` (see below)
2010-02-08 20:44             ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 22:00               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09  5:48               ` AdaMagica
2010-02-09 14:56                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-10  2:29                   ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-11 23:46                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-12  1:29                       ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-11 23:53                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-12  1:10                       ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-10 16:05                   ` Adam Beneschan
2010-02-10 20:17                     ` sjw
2010-02-12  0:05                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-12 11:07                       ` Stephen Leake
2010-02-12 15:01                         ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-13  8:00                           ` Stephen Leake
2010-02-09  9:04               ` stefan-lucks
2010-02-08 17:11           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-02-08 14:56       ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 15:36         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-08 16:06           ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 17:46             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-02-08 20:39               ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 21:54                 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 21:50               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-08 22:04         ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 10:58         ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 14:47           ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09 19:34             ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 20:19               ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 23:29               ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-10  2:39               ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-10  5:12                 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-10  7:17                   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-10 16:09                   ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-10 22:21                     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-11  0:48                       ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09  0:48     ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-09 12:43     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
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