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From: robin.vowels@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Boeing 787 integer overflow
Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2015-05-03T18:55:43-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f009eaaa-5332-4188-b0c9-b1012d7cd605@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mi6f0i$qec$1@dont-email.me>

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 10:38:45 AM UTC+10, Jeffrey R. Carter wrote:
> On 05/03/2015 04:34 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 May 2015 12:03:51 -0400, Peter Chapin <P.nospam@vtc.vsc.edu>
> > declaimed the following:
> > 
> >> I guess it depends on if there is a *requirement* to reboot the system 
> >> periodically (less than 8 months) in the maintenance plan. The matter 
> >> should be handled somewhere and it seems like it wasn't. In other words it 
> >> was just "luck" that these systems have been getting restarted frequently 
> >> enough.
> 
> Apparently there isn't, since the AD is to restart the GCUs more frequently.
> 
> > 	Also depends upon just what "reboot" means in this environment... If
> > this is some sort of elapsed time counter, then it is something saved in
> > flash memory and will survive a normal power-cycle operation.
> > 
> > 	"Reboot" in this case may mean erasing and reloading the operational
> > flight program, databases, and other stuff in "permanent" memory.
> 
> Since the Ad is to restart the GCUs more frequently, it doesn't appear to be
> that complicated. It also says that the effect of the overflow is for the S/W to
> go into a special mode,

That's failsafe mode.

> so it's clear the S/W detects the overflow somehow.

Indeed, but the overflow handler was a general one for all overflows
in the software.
A specific one for that particular timer is clearly needed.

I can't imagine why they'd want to shut everything down
when there's clearly an error.  In a plane, you'd want to continue,
if possible, and obviously, this one is continuable.
In fact, it's essential that it continue.

Sounds like a repeat of the Ariadne failure, where they trapped
an interrupt and shut down (placing an error code on the data bus,
which data was then interpreted as a direction (attitude) change.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-04  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-02 23:34 Boeing 787 integer overflow Robert Love
2015-05-03 11:23 ` Maciej Sobczak
2015-05-03 15:27   ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-05-03 16:03   ` Peter Chapin
2015-05-03 23:34     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-05-04  0:00       ` robin.vowels
2015-05-04  0:38       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-05-04  1:55         ` robin.vowels [this message]
2015-05-03 23:54     ` robin.vowels
2015-05-04  8:28       ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-05-04  8:45         ` robin.vowels
2015-05-04 11:26           ` G.B.
2015-05-04 12:17             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-05-04 12:53               ` G.B.
2015-05-04 13:28         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-05-03 23:49   ` robin.vowels
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