From: Maciej Sobczak <no.spam@no.spam.com>
Subject: Re: Generic procedures and their parameters
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:36:24 +0200
Date: 2006-09-06T14:36:24+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <edmfc8$di4$1@sunnews.cern.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w0vh1ugsvkj1$.2fnx5mt0tplm$.dlg@40tude.net>
Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> eneric
>> type Index_Type is (<>);
>> type Element_Type is private;
>> type Array_Type is array (Index_Type range <>) of Element_Type;
>> with function "<" (Left, Right : in Element_Type) return Boolean is <>;
>> procedure Sort(To_Sort : in out Array_Type);
>>
>> My question is: what's the purpose of the third parameter (Array_Type)?
>> Isn't it implied by the first two and therefore just redundant?
>
> Reverse. Actually Index_Type and Element_Type are redundant. In a better
> Ada it should be:
>
> generic
> type Container_Type is array (<>) of <>;
> -- or "(<>) is limited private array"
> with function "<" (Left, Right : in Container_Type'Element)
> return Boolean is <>;
> procedure Sort (To_Sort : in out Container_Type);
OK, it makes perfect sense.
> [ Even better it be non-generic:
>
> procedure Sort (To_Sort : in out Container_Of_Ordered'Class);
>
> where each container type (like an array) be a member of the class, if its
> elements are in Ordered'Class. ]
But then, you would need to have even such fundamental things like
Integer belong to Ordered'Class. It's a shaky ground.
> Regarding Array_Type being implied, it is not. You can have any number of
> array types based on exactly same combination of index and element types.
> These types will be different types:
>
> type I is ...;
> type E is ...;
> type Array1 is array (I range <>) of E;
> type Array2 is array (I range <>) of E;
> The types Array1 and Array2 are distinct types.
And now I see. I'm still having troubles with the fact that
"granularity" of type system in Ada can be much smaller than what can be
achieved with structural differences only.
> The reverse is a different story. It is a pity that Ada does not have
> attributes to get the index and element types from the array type
> (container type).
Yes.
> The next step would be getting "<" from the element type,
> which would eliminate a need to have Sort generic.
No, I disagree. There is a place for generic subprograms, otherwise we'd
have everything in a single hierarchy with Object at the top. It's not a
coincidence that "other languages" drift towards supporting generics,
even if they already had such single-rooted hierarchies.
--
Maciej Sobczak : http://www.msobczak.com/
Programming : http://www.msobczak.com/prog/
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-06 8:51 Generic procedures and their parameters Maciej Sobczak
2006-09-06 9:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-06 12:36 ` Maciej Sobczak [this message]
2006-09-06 13:11 ` Robert A Duff
2006-09-06 14:14 ` Maciej Sobczak
2006-09-06 15:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-06 16:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-07 7:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-07 6:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-07 10:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-08 9:11 ` Maciej Sobczak
2006-09-08 10:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-09 14:49 ` Robert A Duff
2006-09-09 15:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-09 23:26 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-10 11:49 ` Robert A Duff
2006-09-10 19:43 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-06 13:02 ` Robert A Duff
2006-09-06 14:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-08 3:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-09-08 7:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-09 1:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-09-09 7:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-09 14:32 ` Robert A Duff
2006-09-06 12:56 ` Robert A Duff
2006-09-07 2:47 ` Steve
2006-09-07 7:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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