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From: Lucretia <laguest9000@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: Why can't objects be static in Ada?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:16:26 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2019-04-16T14:16:26-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed1629d2-f6d9-4bc9-b929-01f910bfe4a8@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ghmug9Fsp4kU1@mid.individual.net>

On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 22:07:24 UTC+1, Niklas Holsti  wrote:

> Why are you so fixated on elaboration? Many non-Ada libraries require 
> initialization calls. Moreover, I believe a C++ program can have 
> compiler-generated initialization code similar to Ada elaboration code.

Not everything needs it, the example in this thread shouldn't need it.
 
> > I don't think it can, going by this thread. I also think this is why
> > Ada will fail in other environments, i.e. not security or safety
> > critical stuff, but where performance is important.
> 
> Performance is plenty important in many embedded real-time applications, 
> where Ada works just fine.

Not every application is embedded, which is my point.
 
> Elaboration of library items consumes execution time only at the start 
> of a program. Do you have some stringent start-up deadlines?

Not exactly, but it would be nice to be able to know that something which shouldn't need elaboration, doesn't use elaboration. That's the point, you're missing.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-16 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-11 12:40 Why can't objects be static in Ada? Lucretia
2019-04-11 12:56 ` Mark Lorenzen
2019-04-11 13:31   ` Lucretia
2019-04-11 22:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-12  1:56   ` Lucretia
2019-04-12  7:33     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2019-04-12 22:38     ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-13  9:14       ` Lucretia
2019-04-12  6:59   ` Mark Lorenzen
2019-04-12  8:12     ` Simon Wright
2019-04-12 22:02     ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-13 13:07 ` Jere
2019-04-13 13:48   ` Lucretia
2019-04-15 17:46     ` G. B.
2019-04-14  3:47 ` Keith Thompson
2019-04-16  0:08 ` sbelmont700
2019-04-16  1:40   ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-16 12:11     ` Mark Lorenzen
2019-04-16 16:19       ` Simon Wright
2019-04-16 20:56       ` Lucretia
2019-04-16 21:07         ` Niklas Holsti
2019-04-16 21:16           ` Lucretia [this message]
2019-04-16 21:40             ` Niklas Holsti
2019-04-16 23:26             ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-23 14:30           ` Mark Lorenzen
2019-04-16 23:09       ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-22 20:05       ` Norman Worth
2019-04-16 20:54     ` Lucretia
2019-04-16 23:15       ` Randy Brukardt
2019-04-16 20:53   ` Lucretia
2019-04-18 13:32 ` sbelmont700
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