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From: Adam Beneschan <adambeneschan@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 4 beginner's questions on the PL Ada
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:07:56 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2013-08-12T11:07:56-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eaf6ca07-441d-4991-bed0-afeb4349e44e@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ku6hhp$u4l$1@dont-email.me>

On Saturday, August 10, 2013 4:15:05 PM UTC-7, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2013-08-10, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> 
> > Shark8 writes:
> 
> >
> 
> >> There's a *huge* problem with this: superficial understanding.
> >> This problem can lead to extremely bad code adopted as "best
> >> practice"/"standard practice".
> 
> > There is nothing superficial about code. Code *is* programming.
>
> Code explains _what_ is being done but it does not explain _why_ it
> is being done in this way.
> 
> Would you rather implement, say, a communications protocol by looking
> at a existing implementation only, or would you rather work from a
> design specification which will include the background and overview
> as well as explain the reason for why certain things are done in the
> way they are ?
> 
> If you look at the code only, you only gain a superficial understanding
> of how the protocol is implemented and can end up falling into a
> cargo cult mentality. If you work from the design specification, you
> gain a far deeper understanding of what is going on.

Before we keep this argument up too long, I think we need to step back and acknowledge that people's brains are wired differently, and that different people learn things in different ways.  I definitely need to know the exact rules for things early on; and I usually understand things well enough just by reading the rules without needing too many examples.  But I don't really think of myself as "normal" in this regard.  Others do better by starting with examples and filling in details later.  Please, let's respect our differences here.  

                                 -- Adam


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-12 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-09 16:50 4 beginner's questions on the PL Ada Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 17:09 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-09 17:16   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 17:46     ` Alan Jump
2013-08-09 18:10       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 19:01   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-09 21:38     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 22:00       ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-09 22:16         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10  0:39           ` Anh Vo
2013-08-10  1:24             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10  6:16               ` Simon Wright
2013-08-10 12:13                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 17:12               ` Mike H
2013-08-10 17:53                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 19:50                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-10 22:23                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-11  7:12                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-08-11 12:44                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-11 21:12                           ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-11 21:22                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-12 17:39               ` Anh Vo
2013-08-12 18:15                 ` Anh Vo
2013-08-12 19:57                 ` Simon Wright
2013-08-12 20:13                   ` Anh Vo
2013-08-10  0:52           ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-12 19:47         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-09 22:08       ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 22:23         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 22:36           ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 22:42             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 23:48               ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 23:50                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 23:56                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10  0:44                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-10  0:51                   ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 22:47             ` Alan Jump
2013-08-09 23:33               ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-09 23:43                 ` Alan Jump
2013-08-10  0:19                   ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-10  0:52                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-10  0:48                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 23:40               ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 23:25       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-09 18:29 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-09 18:51   ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-09 19:05     ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-09 18:35 ` Simon Wright
2013-08-09 23:21 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-09 23:48   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10  2:45     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-10  3:33       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 14:57         ` Shark8
2013-08-10 17:43           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 17:55             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 23:15             ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-11 12:16               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-12 18:07               ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2013-08-11  0:34             ` Shark8
2013-08-11 12:42               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-11 13:24                 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-08-11 13:37                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-11 15:15                   ` Mike H
2013-08-12 17:56           ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-10  6:03       ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-12 17:17         ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-08-12 17:27           ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-10 12:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 12:37   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 12:52     ` Emanuel Berg
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