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From: "Dan'l Miller" <optikos@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Strange crash on custom iterator
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 11:59:27 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2018-07-04T11:59:27-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ead50ae7-25cb-4ccf-8146-0e221714b68d@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eade8b90-f4d8-4113-a9d3-7fd0a16d79ad@googlegroups.com>

On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 1:06:17 PM UTC-5, Shark8 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 11:51:20 AM UTC-6, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote:
> > 
> > It would be nice if the encoding and character set of a string were
> > "implementation details".  I'm not sure how to do it, but I think it is
> > worth trying to find a solution for Ada.  (I think I was introduced to
> > how the KDE library does it once, but IIRC only encoding was abstracted
> > away.)
> 
> Indeed so!
> This is the way we /should/ have strings; where [[Wide_]Wide_]String are all generic with things like 'character-set' and 'search' and 'encoding' as formal parameters.
> 
> Sadly this will likely never happen because it would break backwards compatibility.

Then do it outside of the standardization process in a Boost-esque library on GitHub/GitLab/SourceForge to launch a de facto standard that establishes ISO's vaunted ‘established industry practice’.  If C++ can do it, then so can Ada.

That being said, I believe that a far better model than Boost's exists for the cream rising to the top.  Instead of battle-of-the-emails-establishes-king-of-the-hill dominance hierarchies (with all due respect to the esteemed Jordan Peterson), I would recommend multiple concurrently-competing library designs, then a rigorous (repeated? annual?) bake-off among the competitors, evaluating multiple criteria:  runtime performance, engineering-time design flexibility/tunabilty/ease-of-use, maintainability over time.  Oh, call them the Yellow, Blue, Red, and Green libraries.  Who did •that• before for language definition?  …  but for potential standard library content instead this time.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-04 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-30 10:48 Strange crash on custom iterator Lucretia
2018-06-30 11:32 ` Simon Wright
2018-06-30 12:02   ` Lucretia
2018-06-30 14:25     ` Simon Wright
2018-06-30 14:33       ` Lucretia
2018-06-30 19:25         ` Simon Wright
2018-06-30 19:36           ` Luke A. Guest
2018-07-01 18:06             ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-07-01 19:59               ` Simon Wright
2018-07-02 17:43                 ` Luke A. Guest
2018-07-02 19:42                   ` Simon Wright
2018-07-03 14:08                     ` Lucretia
2018-07-03 14:17                       ` J-P. Rosen
2018-07-03 15:06                         ` Lucretia
2018-07-03 15:45                           ` J-P. Rosen
2018-07-03 15:55                             ` Lucretia
2018-07-03 17:00                               ` J-P. Rosen
2018-07-03 15:57                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-03 16:07                               ` Lucretia
2018-07-03 16:36                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-03 16:42                                   ` Lucretia
2018-07-03 16:45                                     ` Lucretia
2018-07-03 20:18                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-03 21:04                                       ` Lucretia
2018-07-04  1:26                                         ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-04  1:59                                           ` Lucretia
2018-07-04  7:37                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04 12:46                                             ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-04 13:37                                             ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-07-04  7:21                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-03 18:54                                   ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-03 20:22                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04  7:33                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2018-07-04  7:53                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04  9:55                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2018-07-04 10:01                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04 11:30                                           ` J-P. Rosen
2018-07-04 13:27                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04 14:37                                               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-04 14:43                                                 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-04 14:57                                                 ` J-P. Rosen
2018-07-04 15:41                                                 ` Lucretia
2018-07-04 16:55                                                   ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-04 18:01                                                     ` Shark8
2018-07-04 18:57                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04 19:53                                                         ` Shark8
2018-07-04 20:05                                                           ` Lucretia
2018-07-04 22:04                                                             ` Shark8
2018-07-05  0:12                                                               ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-05  1:46                                                                 ` Shark8
2018-07-05  2:07                                                                   ` Luke A. Guest
2018-07-05 16:47                                                                     ` Shark8
2018-07-05 17:19                                                                       ` Dan'l Miller
2018-07-05 19:14                                                                         ` Shark8
2018-07-04 20:43                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04 17:51                                             ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-07-04 18:06                                               ` Shark8
2018-07-04 18:59                                                 ` Dan'l Miller [this message]
2018-07-04 19:01                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-05 18:08                                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-05 19:41                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04 21:00                                                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2018-07-05 18:06                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2018-07-04 19:02                                       ` G. B.
2018-07-04 19:16                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04 20:40                                           ` G. B.
2018-07-04 20:55                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-04 21:21                                               ` G.B.
2018-07-05  7:55                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-06  8:28                                                   ` G.B.
2018-07-06  8:57                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-07-02  8:31               ` Lucretia
2018-06-30 14:34       ` Lucretia
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