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From: Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com>
Subject: Re: worrying behaviour
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 08:54:01 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2008-05-02T08:54:01-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea92a206-7617-4968-90c2-31fcc30d5e40@r9g2000prd.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: af1298c2-fa66-4e25-b387-68b9bb02e55b@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com

On May 2, 8:26 am, echancr...@gmail.com wrote:
> After the discussion on static expressions etc.
>
> I came up against this problem which I thought was initially related
> to it but probably not.
>
> let's say I have:
>
> with Ada.Text_IO;  use Ada.Text_IO;
> with ints;
> procedure static is
>    function "-"(L, R : ints.My_Int) return ints.My_int renames
> ints."-";
>    function "-"(L : ints.My_Int) return ints.My_int renames ints."-";
>    Y : constant ints.My_int := -1;
>    Z : constant ints.My_int := 1-1;
> begin
>    Put_Line (ints.My_Int'Image (Y) & ints.My_Int'Image (Z));
> end static;
>
> and
>
> package ints
> is
>   type My_Int is range -100..100;
>   function "-"   (L, R : My_Int) return My_int;
> end ints;
>
> package body ints
> is
>   function "-" (L, R : My_Int) return My_Int
>   is
>   begin
>     return 42;
>   end "-";
> end ints;
>
> So basically, I have forgotten to define unary "-" in the the ints
> package.

It's automatically defined for all integer types (such as My_Int), as
are unary "+" and binary "+", "-", "*", "/", etc.  In the Ints
package, you've overridden the binary "-",  but the other predefined
operations are not affected and are still visible.  So unary "-" does
exist.

I'm not sure that there's a good solution in Ada.  If you really
wanted to make sure that the only operators available for My_Int are
the ones that you remembered to override, you could declare My_Int
private, but then you'd lose the ability to have numeric literals for
that type (in other packages).  I suppose that having some sort of
language construct that says "kill all predefined operators for a
type" would be useful in your case.

On the other hand, your example is obviously not a real-world case,
and I'm having trouble envisioning a case where this would be an
issue.  In a real-life situation, either it would be OK to make the
type a private type, or (if the type really were an integer type)
there wouldn't be any problem with allowing the predefined operators
to exist.  (Especially unary "-".  I know that "*" and "/" can cause
headaches for types that represent measurements, but addition and
comparison operations don't have this issue.)  Perhaps someone could
give an example of a situation where a feature that prevents
predefined integer operations from being defined would be useful, but
I can't think of one offhand.

Are you working on a real-life project where this is a real danger, or
are you simply trying to test your understanding of the language?


> gnat does not complain and the .exe returns '-1 42' as would be
> expected without the unary - rename.
>
> Here however I have renamed the unary - to something that does not
> exist.

It does exist, as I've explained.


> Surely an error should be generated here. Otherwise this is very
> dangerous behaviour.

There are cases where compilers sometimes generate warnings, because
while they are legal Ada there is a very high probability that the
programmer did something wrong.  An example would be defining a "+"
function that renames a "*" defined in another package.

However, defining a unary "-" that renames another unary "-" is a
common idiom (and was even moreso before USE TYPE was added to Ada
95).  I don't see anything in this code that a compiler could
reasonably warn about, although perhaps others may have different
opinions about that.

                                 -- Adam




  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-02 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-02 15:26 worrying behaviour echancrure
2008-05-02 15:54 ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2008-05-02 17:41   ` echancrure
2008-05-02 18:31     ` Adam Beneschan
2008-05-03  1:15   ` Randy Brukardt
2008-05-03  2:04     ` Adam Beneschan
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