From: Austin Obyrne <austin.obyrne@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: My Invention of "Bug Sort".
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:50:34 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2012-06-21T04:50:34-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea5e2e25-eaa5-41d1-bfad-6934df4bfb3f@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jruibm$gn2$1@speranza.aioe.org>
On Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:23:12 AM UTC+1, Manuel Collado wrote:
> El 21/06/2012 7:13, Simon Wright escribió:
> > "Jeffrey R. Carter"<ggsub@pragmada.co.cc> writes:
> >
> >>> 2 ) In "O(N log N)" do I assume log to the base 'e' or what.
> >>
> >> In "Big-O" notation, log is understood to be to the base 2.
> >
> > Isn't there a constant factor between log2(x) and ln(x)? Which is taken
> > up in the O?
> >
> > N = e**x = 2**y
> >
> > Taking natural logs,
> >
> > ln N = x = y.ln 2
>
> Yes. In "Big-O" notation, the base for log() is irrelevant.
>
> O(log N) = O(ln N)
>
> Both expressions denote exactly the same set of functions.
>
> --
> Manuel Collado - http://lml.ls.fi.upm.es/~mcollado
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This is surprising to me - is it right?
<<Yes. In "Big-O" notation, the base for log() is irrelevant.
<< O(log N) = O(ln N)
<< Both expressions denote exactly the same set of functions.
In general,
A change of base in logarithms:
Log(base(a)M = Log (base(b))M / Log (base(b))'a'.
Applying that,In particular here,
Ln of N = Log2N / Ln 2
Unless it is true that there is some constant incorporated in O that verifies this, then
N(Ln N) /= N(Log2 N)
Which is it?
On face value it appears totally incorrect arithmetically, I'm surprised that such an anomaly would be acceptable.
Austin O'Byrne
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-19 7:13 My Invention of "Bug Sort" Austin Obyrne
2012-06-19 11:55 ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-06-19 13:01 ` Austin Obyrne
2012-06-19 22:39 ` ggsub
2012-06-20 8:32 ` Austin Obyrne
2012-06-20 19:45 ` ggsub
2012-06-20 10:57 ` Austin Obyrne
2012-06-20 12:47 ` Manuel Collado
2012-06-20 12:51 ` Manuel Collado
2012-06-20 13:13 ` Manuel Collado
2012-06-20 15:17 ` Austin Obyrne
2012-06-22 20:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-20 19:38 ` ggsub
2012-06-20 23:59 ` Austin Obyrne
2012-06-21 1:17 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2012-06-21 5:13 ` Simon Wright
2012-06-21 7:23 ` Manuel Collado
2012-06-21 11:50 ` Austin Obyrne [this message]
2012-06-21 12:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-06-22 20:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-22 21:16 ` Simon Wright
2012-06-26 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-28 19:05 ` Niklas Holsti
2012-07-03 2:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-06-28 20:59 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-03 2:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-03 9:47 ` Simon Wright
2012-06-21 18:45 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-22 6:52 ` Austin Obyrne
2012-06-21 15:10 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-06-21 18:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-06-21 7:24 ` Austin Obyrne
2012-06-19 22:56 ` Martin Trenkmann
2012-06-20 0:11 ` robin.vowels
2012-06-20 8:51 ` Austin Obyrne
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