From: Stoik <staszek.goldstein@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Your wish list for Ada 202X
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:17:04 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2014-03-26T09:17:04-07:00 [thread overview]
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W dniu środa, 26 marca 2014 09:17:39 UTC+1 użytkownik Dmitry A. Kazakov napisał:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT), Stoik wrote:
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> > I think that even a casual user of Ada should be able to influence somehow
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> > the new version of Ada. I wonder what is high on your list of wishes for
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> > Ada 202X?
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> No. Casual users have casual ideas. Ada already suffered too much from
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> casual additions.
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I strongly disagree with the view. The casual additions to Ada were not from causal users, but from language designers. The casual ideas of casual users are very easy to reject or just disregard. On the other hand, the bunch of people that now influence the development of Ada is quite small, and if something is proposed, the discussion is mainly on problems that such an addition can cause.
Ada, as a language, is now half-dead. There is just one compiler on the market, and the fact that some small company wants to use the language is already big news. It is still used as the first programming language at some universities,
but it is more and more difficult to substantiate its use. The situation will not improve if the language is frozen. Although Ada has a lot of nice features and is still better constructed than some of the more popular languages, there is a lot that causes frustration for the users. I will comment on it more later on.
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2014-03-25 21:41 Your wish list for Ada 202X Stoik
2014-03-25 22:14 ` Simon Wright
2014-03-26 6:25 ` Shark8
2014-03-26 20:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-03-27 9:20 ` Shark8
2014-03-27 21:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-03-28 1:54 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-03-28 8:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-28 21:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-03-29 9:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-31 23:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-01 8:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-01 10:51 ` G.B.
2014-04-01 12:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-02 22:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-03 2:59 ` Shark8
2014-04-05 11:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-08 1:15 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-08 9:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-08 10:15 ` G.B.
2014-04-08 10:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-08 23:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-09 10:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-10 3:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-10 8:42 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-10 21:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-10 15:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-10 22:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-11 6:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-11 21:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-10 22:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-11 6:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-11 21:44 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-12 8:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-14 23:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-15 7:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-15 21:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-16 7:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-16 21:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-17 7:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-17 17:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-17 19:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-11 19:04 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-11 20:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-11 22:04 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-12 8:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-12 8:39 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-04-12 9:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-12 9:55 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-12 10:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-14 23:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-12 10:17 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-04-12 10:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-13 19:43 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-13 21:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-18 19:10 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-18 21:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-19 7:35 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-19 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-19 8:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-19 9:08 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-19 10:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-19 13:53 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-19 14:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-19 18:28 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-19 9:05 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-19 10:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-15 0:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-15 7:21 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-04-15 21:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-16 6:32 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-16 7:24 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-04-16 7:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-16 9:30 ` Redispatching (was: Your wish list for Ada 202X) J-P. Rosen
2014-04-16 19:53 ` Redispatching Niklas Holsti
2014-04-17 7:26 ` Redispatching Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-17 8:22 ` Redispatching Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-18 20:08 ` Redispatching Niklas Holsti
2014-04-18 20:51 ` Redispatching Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-19 9:17 ` Redispatching Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 10:58 ` Redispatching Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-19 11:21 ` Redispatching Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-17 8:53 ` Redispatching J-P. Rosen
2014-04-16 21:44 ` Your wish list for Ada 202X Niklas Holsti
2014-04-16 22:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-18 19:59 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-18 21:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-19 8:14 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-21 23:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-22 6:08 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-04-22 8:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-22 8:30 ` Shark8
2014-04-22 9:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-22 23:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-23 7:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-23 19:43 ` Shark8
2014-04-23 20:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-23 21:28 ` Shark8
2014-04-24 7:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-24 15:20 ` Shark8
2014-04-24 16:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-24 16:50 ` Shark8
2014-04-24 16:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-19 10:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-03-27 22:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-03-28 5:23 ` Shark8
2014-03-26 8:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-26 9:02 ` J Kimball
2014-03-26 9:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-26 10:30 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2014-03-26 15:11 ` G.B.
2014-03-26 21:55 ` Simon Clubley
2014-03-26 15:03 ` G.B.
2014-03-26 22:00 ` Simon Clubley
2014-03-26 16:01 ` Anh Vo
2014-03-26 17:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-27 15:03 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-03-27 16:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-26 16:17 ` Stoik [this message]
2014-03-26 17:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-26 18:04 ` G.B.
2014-03-26 18:47 ` Simon Wright
2014-03-26 19:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-03-27 14:43 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-03-27 22:50 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-03-28 5:22 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-03-28 7:54 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-03-28 21:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-03-26 21:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-03-26 23:15 ` J Kimball
2014-03-27 8:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-27 10:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-03-27 15:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-03-27 21:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-29 14:26 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-04-29 15:39 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-04-29 17:10 ` Simon Clubley
2014-04-29 17:13 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-04-29 19:42 ` Simon Clubley
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2014-03-30 13:40 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-03-30 14:24 ` Simon Clubley
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2014-03-30 14:28 ` Simon Clubley
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2014-03-30 19:02 ` Pascal Obry
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2014-03-31 18:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-05 8:28 ` Pascal Obry
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2014-04-05 11:20 ` Pascal Obry
2014-04-02 16:21 ` Britt
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2014-04-03 0:01 ` Jeffrey Carter
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2014-04-03 19:11 ` Dan'l Miller
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2014-04-03 21:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-04 0:29 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-04-04 8:20 ` Stefan.Lucks
2014-04-04 19:52 ` J Kimball
2014-04-04 20:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-04 20:54 ` Shark8
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2014-04-08 0:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-08 4:43 ` J Kimball
2014-04-08 5:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
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2014-04-04 20:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-04 23:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-04-03 6:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-03 0:06 ` Britt
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2014-04-04 18:31 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-04-04 21:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-05 3:39 ` Peter Chapin
2014-04-04 20:27 ` Shark8
2014-04-14 4:59 ` J Kimball
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2014-04-15 8:41 ` J-P. Rosen
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