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From: Ell <ell@access5.digex.net>
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated
Date: 1998/10/13
Date: 1998-10-13T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eZMU1.641$zi4.206438474@newsreader.digex.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3623921A.CD61B9E4@objectshare.com

James Robertson wrote:

>Ell wrote:
>>
>> I make these comments to point out the fallacies, unjustness and
>> anti-democratic nature of the motivation behind moderation.  After
>> reading this RFD, I'm even more convinced that the motivation for
>> moderation is to place discussion control in the hands of a small
>> group and to deflect criticism away from them.  There is every reason
>> still to:  VOTE NO!

: Then feel free to keep posting in the unmoderated comp.object.  I for one
: would welcome a moderated group as an accessory to the unmoderated one.

It should be more than a matter of simply having a moderated group.  The
thing is under what conditions?

Did you read really the heinous rules for the group.  Did you fail to see
the way that moderators can operate in way such that subjective desires
and wishes can predominate?  They can do this by allowing "short" (what's
short?) one-upsmanship posts! They can also do it by posting personal
remarks in posts.  Did you fail to see that there is no provision for
electing new moderators?!  Not to mention that moderators are elected for
life!

Why should they use Usenet to advance one view?  Why should they be
allowed to wrap themselves in the flag of comp. to shield themselves from
criticism?

Elliott
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             MODERATORS SHOULD NOT HAVE LIFETIME TERMS!
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  reply	other threads:[~1998-10-13  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-10-09  0:00 RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Tim Ottinger
1998-10-13  0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00   ` James Robertson
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Ell [this message]
1998-10-13  0:00       ` James Robertson
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Michi Henning
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-13  0:00             ` Charles Hixson
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Stephen Crawley
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Michi Henning
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Robert Oliver
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Sven Sass
1998-10-14  0:00   ` Michi Henning
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Ell
1998-10-31  0:00 ` Ell
1999-07-29  0:00 ` Bertrand Meyer
1998-10-11  0:00   ` Joachim Durchholz
1998-10-11  0:00   ` Phlip
1998-10-12  0:00   ` Patrick May
1998-10-12  0:00     ` Jason Stokes
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-12  0:00     ` Avner Ben
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Jay Denebeim
1998-10-12  0:00     ` David Franklin Reynolds
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Phlip
1998-10-12  0:00         ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-10-15  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Phlip
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Joachim Durchholz
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Patrick Doyle
1999-07-29  0:00         ` David Mescher
1999-07-29  0:00           ` J Durbin
1999-07-29  0:00           ` Jeff J. Wilson
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Mark Bennison
1998-10-13  0:00       ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Gerhard Menzl
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Boris Schaefer
1998-10-16  0:00         ` Patrick Doyle
1998-10-13  0:00       ` Robert C. Martin
1999-07-29  0:00       ` Jay Denebeim
1998-10-12  0:00   ` Tim Ottinger
     [not found]   ` <363314e1.131092310@enews.newsguy.com>
1998-10-14  0:00     ` Phlip
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Boris Schaefer
1998-10-14  0:00     ` Kevin Szabo
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1999-07-29  0:00   ` Jay Denebeim
1999-07-29  0:00     ` Reposts of old news (was Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated) Kathy Pascoe
1999-07-30  0:00       ` Ell
1999-07-30  0:00         ` Jason Stokes
1999-07-30  0:00           ` Jason Stokes
1999-07-30  0:00           ` Ell
1999-07-30  0:00             ` Jay Denebeim
1999-07-31  0:00               ` Ken Foskey
1999-07-30  0:00                 ` Reposts of old news Eric Clayberg
1999-07-31  0:00                 ` Reposts of old news (was Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated) Ell
1999-08-05  0:00                   ` Nic
1999-08-05  0:00                     ` universe
1999-07-29  0:00   ` REPOST ATTACK (Was: " Jon Bell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-08-27  0:00 RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Tim Ottinger
     [not found] ` <H5oH1.634$495.190709860@newsreader.digex.net>
     [not found]   ` <35ee6ccb.0@news2.ibm.net>
1998-09-06  0:00     ` Ell
1998-09-07  0:00       ` Rolf F. Katzenberger
1998-09-07  0:00         ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-08  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-17  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-07  0:00         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08  0:00           ` Rolf F. Katzenberger
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